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		<title>By: Ipanema Bob</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/backup-goalkeepers/6634/comment-page-1/#comment-84528</link>
		<dc:creator>Ipanema Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:14:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about the back-up keeper&#039;s back-up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about the back-up keeper&#8217;s back-up?</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/backup-goalkeepers/6634/comment-page-1/#comment-84263</link>
		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 19:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Arvin

you can made a few additions to that Reina bloopers tape!</description>
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<p>you can made a few additions to that Reina bloopers tape!</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/backup-goalkeepers/6634/comment-page-1/#comment-84106</link>
		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 19:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Arvin

You can only play behind the defence put in front of you when you&#039;re in goal, but anyway, you say that comparisons can&#039;t be made between the two because they play for different teams, then you say to compare blooper tapes...hmm...

Its all academic really, if you want to focus on stats then you may as well comment that Van der Saar has conceded much less then Reina despite playing for a more attacking team. According to your logic, with a 6 goal swing in favour of Van der Saar, the stats suggest that he is a much much better &#039;keeper as he has a better defence in front of him in a team that doesn&#039;t defend as much as Liverpool</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Arvin</p>
<p>You can only play behind the defence put in front of you when you&#8217;re in goal, but anyway, you say that comparisons can&#8217;t be made between the two because they play for different teams, then you say to compare blooper tapes&#8230;hmm&#8230;</p>
<p>Its all academic really, if you want to focus on stats then you may as well comment that Van der Saar has conceded much less then Reina despite playing for a more attacking team. According to your logic, with a 6 goal swing in favour of Van der Saar, the stats suggest that he is a much much better &#8216;keeper as he has a better defence in front of him in a team that doesn&#8217;t defend as much as Liverpool</p>
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		<title>By: So How Good Is Ben Foster? &#8212; A Watford Fan&#8217;s Perspective &#124; Red Rants</title>
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		<dc:creator>So How Good Is Ben Foster? &#8212; A Watford Fan&#8217;s Perspective &#124; Red Rants</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 09:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] further reading, on &#8216;keepers in general, here&#8217;s an interesting article: Keeping the Bench Warm â€“ The Trials &amp; Tribulations of Back-Up Goalkeepers Related items from Red [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Arvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>T it was...... &#039;indeed that long ago&#039;.

Casillas has to remain alert and focused because he is constantly tested in games.  Therefore his &#039;activity&#039; enables his concentration not to wane at any juncture in the game.  However Reina experiences the opposite with a solid defensive unit in front of him. His relative &#039;inactivity&#039; means concentration is easier to lose. Hence when he is able to make a decisive save at any one point in a match, it is harder, but altogether all the more remarkable.  Shame I had to spell it out to you Steckelmacher.

Reina&#039;s blooper tape?  Have a look at the one for Casillas and you&#039;ll find that the duration of the tape will be alot longer.  Oh my, Casillas does &#039;stink it up&#039; from time to time.

Further, Reina has achieved two successive &#039;golden gloves&#039; awards in his time in England.  He requires two more clean sheets to break none other than Ray Clemence&#039;s record for the number of clean sheets set in 100 games for Liverpool.  Says it all really.

P.S. I didn&#039;t know I was writing a dissertation for a degree course in reference to your sniping of my spelling.  I will bear that in mind when I finish my English degree this year. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>T it was&#8230;&#8230; &#8216;indeed that long ago&#8217;.</p>
<p>Casillas has to remain alert and focused because he is constantly tested in games.  Therefore his &#8216;activity&#8217; enables his concentration not to wane at any juncture in the game.  However Reina experiences the opposite with a solid defensive unit in front of him. His relative &#8216;inactivity&#8217; means concentration is easier to lose. Hence when he is able to make a decisive save at any one point in a match, it is harder, but altogether all the more remarkable.  Shame I had to spell it out to you Steckelmacher.</p>
<p>Reina&#8217;s blooper tape?  Have a look at the one for Casillas and you&#8217;ll find that the duration of the tape will be alot longer.  Oh my, Casillas does &#8217;stink it up&#8217; from time to time.</p>
<p>Further, Reina has achieved two successive &#8216;golden gloves&#8217; awards in his time in England.  He requires two more clean sheets to break none other than Ray Clemence&#8217;s record for the number of clean sheets set in 100 games for Liverpool.  Says it all really.</p>
<p>P.S. I didn&#8217;t know I was writing a dissertation for a degree course in reference to your sniping of my spelling.  I will bear that in mind when I finish my English degree this year. </p>
<p>Not.</p>
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		<title>By: T</title>
		<link>http://soccerlens.com/backup-goalkeepers/6634/comment-page-1/#comment-83992</link>
		<dc:creator>T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Arvin

Reina vs Everton...dont u remember that? 2006 wasn&#039;t that long ago</description>
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<p>Reina vs Everton&#8230;dont u remember that? 2006 wasn&#8217;t that long ago</p>
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		<title>By: Hugo Steckelmacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugo Steckelmacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arvin, I know that you&#039;re a Liverpool fan and am fully aware of your elephantine bias, so I&#039;m not going to bother engaging in debate. 

Just a couple of pointers, though. Firstly, the verb is spelt &quot;receive&quot;, and I&#039;m not entirely sure why you&#039;d like me to quit receiving wisdom, but I&#039;ll give some serious thought to stopping reading at your behest. 

Secondly, your argument that the comparison is unfair is a solid one - but then again, any comparison between footballers playing for different teams necessarily suffers from the same problem. You could argue that Torres would score more goals at Arsenal, for example. Or that Kaka at Manchester United might play a quite different role. 

However, the internal logic of your argument is frankly barmy. You accuse Casillas of not having to concentrate: does it not occur to you that one has to be pretty damn focussed to concentrate for fully ninety minutes, making saves at every juncture of the game. Call me crazy, but seems to me that it&#039;s a hell of a lot easier on the head to have to concentrate for just the two minute patches in which Reina is tested, and there is not a doubt in my mind that both keepers would prefer a solid defence to a somewhat charitable one.

Reina is certainly better at saving penalties, and arguably in terms of distribution. Other than that, there is no attribute in which Casillas does not surpass him. And I&#039;d advise you to go over your Reina bloopers tape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arvin, I know that you&#8217;re a Liverpool fan and am fully aware of your elephantine bias, so I&#8217;m not going to bother engaging in debate. </p>
<p>Just a couple of pointers, though. Firstly, the verb is spelt &#8220;receive&#8221;, and I&#8217;m not entirely sure why you&#8217;d like me to quit receiving wisdom, but I&#8217;ll give some serious thought to stopping reading at your behest. </p>
<p>Secondly, your argument that the comparison is unfair is a solid one &#8211; but then again, any comparison between footballers playing for different teams necessarily suffers from the same problem. You could argue that Torres would score more goals at Arsenal, for example. Or that Kaka at Manchester United might play a quite different role. </p>
<p>However, the internal logic of your argument is frankly barmy. You accuse Casillas of not having to concentrate: does it not occur to you that one has to be pretty damn focussed to concentrate for fully ninety minutes, making saves at every juncture of the game. Call me crazy, but seems to me that it&#8217;s a hell of a lot easier on the head to have to concentrate for just the two minute patches in which Reina is tested, and there is not a doubt in my mind that both keepers would prefer a solid defence to a somewhat charitable one.</p>
<p>Reina is certainly better at saving penalties, and arguably in terms of distribution. Other than that, there is no attribute in which Casillas does not surpass him. And I&#8217;d advise you to go over your Reina bloopers tape.</p>
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		<title>By: Arvin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arvin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Casillas &quot;a good deal better than (Reina)&quot;. Lol.  Come on Steckelmacher, do us a favour and stop recieving the wisdom.  Lets see how Casillas would do if he actually had to concentrate for 90 minutes in their entirety on a regular basis as Reina does for Liverpool.  The Real Madrid defence lends itself to Casillas&#039;s reputation and has done for soo many years now.  A mark of a good goalkeeper is of course when he is not tested for most of the game but when is, makes the defining save.  Reina is one of the world&#039;s best proponents of this.  Put Casillas into the Liverpool team and after two or three seasons you could make a proper argument when comparing his attributes to Reina.  The comparison is therefore unfair.  Don&#039;t get me wrong, Casillas is a world class goalkeeper, but in the time that Reina has been at both Liverpool and Villareal, Casillas has made far many more &#039;howlers&#039;, some shocking for a keeper of his reputation.  Reina is one of the world&#039;s best keepers.  His only weakness is his lack of height.  Distribution wise there is no other in his leauge, not even Buffon and Chech.  AND concerning penalty saving, no one comes close.....maybe Ricardo but no other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Casillas &#8220;a good deal better than (Reina)&#8221;. Lol.  Come on Steckelmacher, do us a favour and stop recieving the wisdom.  Lets see how Casillas would do if he actually had to concentrate for 90 minutes in their entirety on a regular basis as Reina does for Liverpool.  The Real Madrid defence lends itself to Casillas&#8217;s reputation and has done for soo many years now.  A mark of a good goalkeeper is of course when he is not tested for most of the game but when is, makes the defining save.  Reina is one of the world&#8217;s best proponents of this.  Put Casillas into the Liverpool team and after two or three seasons you could make a proper argument when comparing his attributes to Reina.  The comparison is therefore unfair.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, Casillas is a world class goalkeeper, but in the time that Reina has been at both Liverpool and Villareal, Casillas has made far many more &#8216;howlers&#8217;, some shocking for a keeper of his reputation.  Reina is one of the world&#8217;s best keepers.  His only weakness is his lack of height.  Distribution wise there is no other in his leauge, not even Buffon and Chech.  AND concerning penalty saving, no one comes close&#8230;..maybe Ricardo but no other.</p>
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		<title>By: Aidan Ward</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aidan Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never understood why a goalie of the obvious class as Harper has stayed at Newcastle for so long just happy playing secong fiddle all the time</description>
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		<title>By: Liviu Bird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liviu Bird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 17:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article. I am a goalkeeper myself, and I&#039;ve been on both ends of the argument: playing every day and knowing that I won&#039;t ever play. The fact of the matter is that as long as the person ahead of you is a good person in general (not Jens Lehmann) and the quality of the training sessions are there, most goalkeepers, especially younger ones, have no reason not to stick it out for a while and try to gain experience. The goalkeeper&#039;s union is a strong one and keepers are willing to help each other out in any way necessary, even if that means just being there to ensure that they stay on form, or to take their place if they&#039;re not, for whatever reason (injury, bad play, etc). As far as my list for the top five number 13s goes, here it is (in no particular order):

1. Kasey Keller, Fulham
2. Carlo Cudicini, Chelsea
3. Ben Foster, Man U
4. Scott Carson, Liverpool (I consider him a back-up because he&#039;s out on loan, and first-choice keepers don&#039;t go on loan)
5. Manuel Almunia, Arsenal (not sure if he still fits in this category)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article. I am a goalkeeper myself, and I&#8217;ve been on both ends of the argument: playing every day and knowing that I won&#8217;t ever play. The fact of the matter is that as long as the person ahead of you is a good person in general (not Jens Lehmann) and the quality of the training sessions are there, most goalkeepers, especially younger ones, have no reason not to stick it out for a while and try to gain experience. The goalkeeper&#8217;s union is a strong one and keepers are willing to help each other out in any way necessary, even if that means just being there to ensure that they stay on form, or to take their place if they&#8217;re not, for whatever reason (injury, bad play, etc). As far as my list for the top five number 13s goes, here it is (in no particular order):</p>
<p>1. Kasey Keller, Fulham<br />
2. Carlo Cudicini, Chelsea<br />
3. Ben Foster, Man U<br />
4. Scott Carson, Liverpool (I consider him a back-up because he&#8217;s out on loan, and first-choice keepers don&#8217;t go on loan)<br />
5. Manuel Almunia, Arsenal (not sure if he still fits in this category)</p>
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