Comments on: Axed Scottish Pair Shame The Nation

By: Alan Worrall

Alan Worrall — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 11:26:02 +0000

The drinking itself didn’t warrant the ban, the day after the Iceland match the SFA declared the matter over with, only for the pictures of the ‘two fingered salute’ to show up on the internet and in the newspapers, and it was this childish and irresponsible action that lead to the lifetime bans.

The gestures almost certainly weren’t at the fans, that much you can probably assume, but they should never have made the gestures at all. All of this would have blown over by now had they not. They upped the ante essentially and paid for it.

Let’s face it, people are supposed to look to their national team’s captain for inspiration and leadership. Scottish fans certainly didn’t get that from Ferguson.

By: Daniel Chung

Daniel Chung — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 14:19:16 +0000

@Matthew
Back in the 2007 Asian Cup (Asia’s equivalent of the Euros) the goalkeeper of Korea (Lee Won-Jae) and then Middlesbrough striker Lee Dong-Guk and several other players had gone out to a room salon (high end Korean type bar where women serve you alcohol and “other” services) the night before Korea were to play Bahrain in a group match. Of course we duly lost that match and were facing early elimination (we ended up third by beating Japan on penalties in case you’re curious) but the players involved were banned for one year from the national team. It effectively has ended Lee Dong-Guk’s international career but Lee Won-Jae has returned to play in goal (which might be more a sad commentary on our goal keeping situation). That seemed a bit more reasonable although Lee Won-Jae was deeply humiliated in the press conference and was unable to control himself (going to a room salon is almost in these circumstances equivalent to going to a brothel).

By: Matthew

Matthew — Mon, 06 Apr 2009 13:51:57 +0000

Im Scottish and a big Rangers fan and yes I feel the overall punishment is harsh. I think they deserve to be dropped, club captaincy stripped and fined wages. However a lifetime ban from international football, when it has been reported that 5 other players took part in the drinking, is really a step too far.

By: Daniel Chung

Daniel Chung — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 23:59:01 +0000

For those who follow Scottish football, does the punishment really fit the crime? Banned for life? Is that contingent on an absence of an apology or straight up ban for life?

By: milner

milner — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:15:12 +0000

Two fingers for Kasia

By: Kasia

Kasia — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 10:47:38 +0000

Liam, British two fingers and American peace sign are different. Your wrist is turned the other way.

By: duffman90

duffman90 — Sun, 05 Apr 2009 01:25:45 +0000

yeah,over here in ireland the 2 fingers is a culchy(country person) sign for “fuck off”.im glad they got punished,but then again,i do like celtic so…….

By: Jake the Mackem (Sunderland till i die)

Jake the Mackem (Sunderland till i die) — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 23:17:56 +0000

it pretty much means fuck off

By: Liam

Liam — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 23:06:07 +0000

In british culture 2 fingers is like the middle finger, weird because in America it means peace

By: CT

CT — Sat, 04 Apr 2009 22:17:18 +0000

Daniel, I agree. I would like to know what exactly it means. I know in the U.S. the two fingers represent a vagina and the pic shown would mean that they were eating out a vag but I doubt it means the same thing in Scotland. Alan, do you have any idea?