Comments on: Aston Villa player ban puts Chelsea’s backing of Terry and Drogba in a new light http://soccerlens.com/aston-villa-player-ban-puts-chelseas-backing-of-terry-and-drogba-in-a-new-light/40208/ Football News Thu, 24 May 2012 19:37:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: BD Condell http://soccerlens.com/aston-villa-player-ban-puts-chelseas-backing-of-terry-and-drogba-in-a-new-light/40208/#comment-122787 BD Condell Fri, 05 Feb 2010 10:31:47 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=40208#comment-122787 "The thing is what Baker did was against official club policy. Having affairs with your teammates girlfriends is not." Now you tell me! If only I'd known that when I was playing........our centre-forward's missus was gorgeous! Bugger!!!! :) “The thing is what Baker did was against official club policy.

Having affairs with your teammates girlfriends is not.”

Now you tell me! If only I’d known that when I was playing……..our centre-forward’s missus was gorgeous!

Bugger!!!! :)

]]> By: Ahmed Bilal http://soccerlens.com/aston-villa-player-ban-puts-chelseas-backing-of-terry-and-drogba-in-a-new-light/40208/#comment-122778 Ahmed Bilal Fri, 05 Feb 2010 08:34:23 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=40208#comment-122778 Fair point :) Fair point :)

]]> By: erwf http://soccerlens.com/aston-villa-player-ban-puts-chelseas-backing-of-terry-and-drogba-in-a-new-light/40208/#comment-122771 erwf Fri, 05 Feb 2010 00:20:32 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=40208#comment-122771 The thing is what Baker did was against official club policy. Having affairs with your teammates girlfriends is not. The thing is what Baker did was against official club policy.

Having affairs with your teammates girlfriends is not.

]]> By: Villan http://soccerlens.com/aston-villa-player-ban-puts-chelseas-backing-of-terry-and-drogba-in-a-new-light/40208/#comment-122768 Villan Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:47:56 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=40208#comment-122768 Jesus!! Come on! I am a Villa home and away fan. Miss 3 of 4 games a season, so I am Villa through and through and have been for too many years now; trust me. However I do think this article is stretching a point. Of course Terry is a total moral disaster. So what? If Milner of Young were to behave so appallingly I'd be disappointed but if they were dropped because of it I'd be disgusted. And as for Nathan Baker? Who? He may never play for the first team. To compare him with Terry's importance to Chelsea is a complete joke. Jesus!! Come on! I am a Villa home and away fan. Miss 3 of 4 games a season, so I am Villa through and through and have been for too many years now; trust me.

However I do think this article is stretching a point. Of course Terry is a total moral disaster. So what? If Milner of Young were to behave so appallingly I’d be disappointed but if they were dropped because of it I’d be disgusted.

And as for Nathan Baker? Who? He may never play for the first team. To compare him with Terry’s importance to Chelsea is a complete joke.

]]> By: hristinho18 http://soccerlens.com/aston-villa-player-ban-puts-chelseas-backing-of-terry-and-drogba-in-a-new-light/40208/#comment-122767 hristinho18 Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:37:19 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=40208#comment-122767 I find myself increasingly envious of Aston Villa. A fine manager, a stable minded football supporting owner, a decent and developing squad- and always a fair and right hand when it comes to dealing with its players/employees. I have no doubt if Milner had committed anything so closely resembling Terry's transgression (tho from all reports he seems one of the most well adjusted and down to earth footballers), he would have been dealt with quickly and swiftly. Stood down from the squad and fined a chunk of his sizeable earnings. Terry, the highest earner in the League, has people in all corners from White Van Men to ex-players, defending him from an indefensible position. No one seems to have the balls to say- "This man has proved that he may be a fine footballer, but a poor example of a man and not worthy to lead his team". I find myself increasingly envious of Aston Villa. A fine manager, a stable minded football supporting owner, a decent and developing squad- and always a fair and right hand when it comes to dealing with its players/employees. I have no doubt if Milner had committed anything so closely resembling Terry’s transgression (tho from all reports he seems one of the most well adjusted and down to earth footballers), he would have been dealt with quickly and swiftly. Stood down from the squad and fined a chunk of his sizeable earnings. Terry, the highest earner in the League, has people in all corners from White Van Men to ex-players, defending him from an indefensible position. No one seems to have the balls to say- “This man has proved that he may be a fine footballer, but a poor example of a man and not worthy to lead his team”.

]]> By: Ahmed Bilal http://soccerlens.com/aston-villa-player-ban-puts-chelseas-backing-of-terry-and-drogba-in-a-new-light/40208/#comment-122763 Ahmed Bilal Thu, 04 Feb 2010 19:14:59 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=40208#comment-122763 Joe, There were two points: 1. I'd like to see clubs punish their players instead of backing them when they bring the club's name into disrepute. The argument has been made elsewhere as well and I'll restate it - as a captain and public representative your personal life becomes open to public consumption and has a direct bearing on your and your club's reputation. You and I may not like it, but that's how the world is. Until it changes, we deal with it instead of doing a Wenger. 2. I don't think a player of higher standing than Baker (i.e. a first-team player) would have been dealt with the same way even at Aston Villa, so the second, albeit minor, point was that Baker was made an example by the club because they could push him around. The main point was still #1. Joe,

There were two points:

1. I’d like to see clubs punish their players instead of backing them when they bring the club’s name into disrepute. The argument has been made elsewhere as well and I’ll restate it – as a captain and public representative your personal life becomes open to public consumption and has a direct bearing on your and your club’s reputation. You and I may not like it, but that’s how the world is. Until it changes, we deal with it instead of doing a Wenger.

2. I don’t think a player of higher standing than Baker (i.e. a first-team player) would have been dealt with the same way even at Aston Villa, so the second, albeit minor, point was that Baker was made an example by the club because they could push him around.

The main point was still #1.

]]> By: JD http://soccerlens.com/aston-villa-player-ban-puts-chelseas-backing-of-terry-and-drogba-in-a-new-light/40208/#comment-122762 JD Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:52:57 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=40208#comment-122762 Excellent article. A footballers personal life does affect his professional life when his personal life becomes scandalous. He should have the arm band taken and at least give it up himself to show some acceptance of wrong doing! Excellent article. A footballers personal life does affect his professional life when his personal life becomes scandalous. He should have the arm band taken and at least give it up himself to show some acceptance of wrong doing!

]]> By: Joe Marshall http://soccerlens.com/aston-villa-player-ban-puts-chelseas-backing-of-terry-and-drogba-in-a-new-light/40208/#comment-122758 Joe Marshall Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:12:37 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=40208#comment-122758 Your right about the inability to contrast the supposed offences of the four players in question. I'm not sure exactly what your talking about regarding Drogba and Ballack specifically, but I assume it's regarding the farce that was the Barcelona Semi-Final. If you remember Drogba was given punishment of a 6 game, suspended to four game European ban for his actions. And the question regarding John Terry is still ongoing. Chelsea have retained his position in the club because they believe his personal life shouldn't effect his professional playing career. What he did wasn't against the 'club policy'. I'm not entirely sure what this article is trying to say. Your right about the inability to contrast the supposed offences of the four players in question.
I’m not sure exactly what your talking about regarding Drogba and Ballack specifically, but I assume it’s regarding the farce that was the Barcelona Semi-Final.
If you remember Drogba was given punishment of a 6 game, suspended to four game European ban for his actions.
And the question regarding John Terry is still ongoing. Chelsea have retained his position in the club because they believe his personal life shouldn’t effect his professional playing career. What he did wasn’t against the ‘club policy’.
I’m not entirely sure what this article is trying to say.

]]> By: Villaman http://soccerlens.com/aston-villa-player-ban-puts-chelseas-backing-of-terry-and-drogba-in-a-new-light/40208/#comment-122754 Villaman Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:24:31 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=40208#comment-122754 I think you are right to highlight the discrepency between the approach of the two clubs. I think my club dealt with the situation well. The truth is though that whilst John Terry appears to be guilty of a moral failing and is rightly castigated for it, Ashley Cole is declared a criminal for driving his lamborghini at an insane 104mph on a 50mph limit stretch of the A3 and it is hardly mentioned. He recieved a paltry £1000 fine and 4 month ban, which he intends to appeal against. Anyone who knows this stretch of road will recognise that driving at that type of speed is verging on the criminally insane. Of the 3 players "crimes", I find Cole's by far the worst. I think you are right to highlight the discrepency between the approach of the two clubs. I think my club dealt with the situation well.

The truth is though that whilst John Terry appears to be guilty of a moral failing and is rightly castigated for it, Ashley Cole is declared a criminal for driving his lamborghini at an insane 104mph on a 50mph limit stretch of the A3 and it is hardly mentioned. He recieved a paltry £1000 fine and 4 month ban, which he intends to appeal against.

Anyone who knows this stretch of road will recognise that driving at that type of speed is verging on the criminally insane.

Of the 3 players “crimes”, I find Cole’s by far the worst.

]]> By: Nick Higginson http://soccerlens.com/aston-villa-player-ban-puts-chelseas-backing-of-terry-and-drogba-in-a-new-light/40208/#comment-122753 Nick Higginson Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:21:48 +0000 http://soccerlens.com/?p=40208#comment-122753 Hear, hear. Well done Villa - a fine club, with a fine tradition. Honesty and respect are bywords - if only the Sky 4 were the same. Hear, hear. Well done Villa – a fine club, with a fine tradition. Honesty and respect are bywords – if only the Sky 4 were the same.

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