Aug
21
2008
Arsenal get Silvestre, Manchester City get Kompany - what the ….?
While Arsenal bagged a 31-year old defender who couldn’t make the grade at their fiercest title rivals, Manchester City went ahead and snapped up one of the hottest young defenders in Europe.
Something tells me that someone messed things up here. You’d expect Kompany to be going to Arsenal, Silvestre heading to City.
Has Wenger made a mistake or did he get it right and we’ll see Silvestre in the form of his life this season?
Have City pulled off another transfer coup (2 out of 3, what with Jo coming and Ronaldinho not) or is this going to be a dud signing?
Get in City… What a coup… f*ck Silvestre.. Kompany is one of the hottest talents in Europe.
I think you miss the point of the transfer lads.
Silvestre has been bought for backup!!
Thats it!!!
And if wenger really wanted Kompany he would of!!!
I think you need to read the comments from Wenger and the reject mate - he ain’t no backup hahahahah $750,000 poor old Arsene how the great hath fallen and yet another trophyless season guaranteed
who needs kompany?? we have SONG
1st, Kampony has been linked with us for 2 years. 2nd, If Wenger had signed Kompany, you would criticize Wenger for buying youth over experience. 3rd, Wenger was top most of last year after making a profit in the transfer window. Who else would spend there whole managerial career in England in the top 4 with his budget. No one. COME ON THE GUNNERS.
Arsene was probably put off Kompany after the Nigerian kids put four past him in the Olympics. Enjoy City.
kompany isnt french silvestre is. arsene wenger has turned arsenal into a training ground for the french. if arsenal wants to win a trophy again then get rid of the arsenal board and arsene wenger. football has changed, arsenal hasnt. arsenal is no longer a footbal club and until some billionaire buys it its just a construction/property company. (new stadium and highbury apartments etc). look at the state of the english national team, how many arsenal players are there in the england squad? 0. walcott is currently just a sub. arsenal needs more english talent instead of being a job centre for over-payed french crap.
“”Arsené was probably put off Kompany after the Nigerian kids put four past him in the Olympics.†Dude, check your facts; he was not there when Nigeria beat Belgium, having already returned “home” to Hamburg. More to the point, however, none of us really know Kompany, except for a few good clips on Youtube (people rarely show bad clips). Still, he had to be a decent player, playing for Hamburg, but we still do not know enough about him, other than speculative, gossipy speculation through forums like this. The real issue at this time of the year is experience of the PL, which Kompany does not have. Thus Wenger is looking for experience in two senses: 1) Experience as in age, which Silvestre has; and 2) experience of this league, and on both accounts his ability to fit in ASAP. He will have played with Gallas (however infectively, actually, for France). I’m not sure who he will be a back up for, but if he plays alongside Gallas and it is understood to be an effective partnership, then that means Wenger will move Kolo to midfield, which is something that I have personally wanted for a while. Additionally, it means that when and if all of the players are fit, we have more attacking options with Rosicky and numerous other players as backups in defensive midfield and other defensive positions, including Senderos, who I think this a very good player, despite the hate put on him and Eboue by the gooner hate mob.
Finally, Arsené has once again saved the Gunners money. The league is going to pop soon, and the only teams, save the billionaires who inflate and inflate and inflate to the point of making this league unsustainable, are the Gunners 50 million spent by Spurs, even discounting the absurd price Liverpool paid for Keane—how can this go on; Chelsea wanting to buy Robinho for 31 million This gives winning at all cost a new and ridiculous meaning, and one I would never want Arsenal to be a part of.
Kompany was in Hamburg while Belgium was playing Nigeria…
Overpaid french crap? What have you been smokin?
France in the last decade have won the world cup, the european championship and 2 confederations cups. England couldn’t win a raffle if wAYNE rOONEY WAS DRAWING THE NUMBER OUT OF THE HAT. gET REAL AND GET A LIFE!
Well, Tim, you have bought into the model that Wenger is trying to resist: paying money for over-inflated people like a defensive Darren Bent? Who is out there? Who are the good ole Hinglish boys whom you’d choose? Developing a club like Arsenal takes a lot of time, and putting in a model that does not reproduce Man U, Chelsea a Liverpool, and now the stupid Spurs. I might add Man City– look at the chaos going on over there. As to the young English talent, or should I say British, as we have Welsh fledgling (does that make it better for you?), we have people in the pipeline who will be coming through over the next couple of seasons, but this has been a rushed transition because of all of the false and dirty money coming into the league; better the construction company model than the US/Russian sugar daddies who will be investing in football clubs one day, and gold the next. And surely, as a good ole Hinglish boy, you would prefer the money from construction and flats being recycled back into the club, no? Name me a Brit defender out there who is buyable, who is worth it in other words, other than at inflated prices and whose skill extends to being able to boot a ball with his right foot? How much would we pay for a Micah Richards, for example, who’s off the financial planet right now? There’s a lot of Brit crap out there who are no better than Silvestre, whom I expect to be a transition player for a year, maybe a bit more, while the younger players are getting bloodied. Although I remain neutral on this, and if I am wrong, I will be the first to say you all told me so, but better tried than a tried piece of Brit crap. By the way, although I now live in Canada, I lived on the New North Rd and would walk to Highbury games. I actually also played there. I’m nostalgic for a time of innocence and all-boy British teams with the one token foreigner (and in those days, even the occasional black one) thrown in. That was then, and this is now, and I wouldn’t want it otherwise. The football we have been given over the past decade or so has raised the bar and made us spoilt; and it is AW who has done this for us. Be thankful, and be a little patient. Your Hinglish boys, or some of them, will be back at a time when the bubble of excess has burst in the PL, and who is going to be able to sustain it with both Brit and “foreign” players? You bet.
Tim you are so naive and to be quite honest extremely dum.
Arsenal havnt payed crazy money to buy Gerrard Rooney J Cole Carrick ect, and if we had would we be helping England? Of course not wat difference wud it make u dummy! Look at the facts Arsenal have produced more English tallent than any top for club, thats from our school acadamy, so why should we buy crap English players jus too keep stupid blind and oblivious to the facts people like you happy?
You just have to look at the Arsenal youth team to see Arsenal is giving the future of English football every chance,
Quite shocked Mikael really left United, especially since we lost Pique too. Looks like Evans and the twins have a chance to break into first team.
Kompany can keep Richards company in the centre of defence with Hart just behind them. Looks like City still have their quid to flow.
VIPER im not saying english players r better than the french. and if france has won the world cup its thanx to the english premier league with so many good foreign players competing and to other top clubs like real madrid, barcelona etc for buying them! what u said viper proves my point. grow a brain b4 u comment.
PABLO there r many good english players for example bentley which wenger got rid of. hoyte has also been sold as well as many others over the past few years for example ashley cole and sol campbell. my point is that ALL english clubs have a duty to the national team thats what football is about. arsenal couldnt care less about the national team. ashley young, david bentley, michael johnson, aaron lennon, micha richards, joe hart, gabriel agbonlahor, glenn johnson, stewart downing, frazier campbell etc etc are all good players and will improve.
ALL GOONED UP: the correct spelling is ‘dumb’…. most of arsenals youth team is to be sold. its not for the first team. look at history and the facts. over the past years many of the youth players have been sold off to premier league or coca-cola league teams. the arsenal team hasnt benefitted from the youth team or academy but its bank account has. people keep going on about arsenals youth players…. like who? remember walcott was purchased. name me 1 arsenal player thats come up from the ranks and still plays for arsenal. jack wilshere who is only 16!? the day he was added to the 1st team wenger gave a press conference saying ‘look u see i do play english players’ erm whooopeee! he would sell wilshere in a flash if wenger had the money (’monee’) to replace french flamini. all im saying is arsenal needs more english players even fifa want to make it a rule to play 5 nationals. that would cause arsenal major problems. au revoir.
Silvestre will provide both experience and cover for Arsenal across the back line. Although I hate to admit it £750,000 for an established premier league player seems good business. If Wenger wants Kompany he’ll get him next year at a decent price if City have the financial problems that seem on the horizon given Mr Shinawatra’s current, precarious position.
I think Silvestre will be a great signing for Arsenal. Very experienced and a good player. Kompany will be a fantastic signing for City..although I’m not sure whether he will play in defence…city still need a right winger
all this talk about financial problems…yet they are still spending. £30 million so far this summer!!!! Dont believe everything you read in the so called “news” papers. The same papers who told us Corluka was leaving…dear dear dear
Arsenal do not have any youth players in their first eleven. Liverpool has Gerrard. Man Utd have Scholes and Giggs. Chelsea has Terry. All the other PL teams have youth players as well but Arsenal has none. But the media still go on about Wenger’s ability. His ability is to find young talent, not to make young talent. If David Moyes or Martin O’Neill were in charge of Arsenal I think they would stand a better chance of winning something this season. Silvestre is still a good player but Kompany is better. Looks like Arsenal are eating Man Utd’s left overs. They did the same with Gallas from Chelsea and look how big of a mistake that turned out to be. I still remember him sulking up the other end of the field…. If Arsenal doesn’t sort itself out soon, they will lose Fabregas and then there will be nothing left. Didn’t Alan Pardew criticize Wenger for not playing enough English players?
man utd won the european championship with 6 english players on the pitch. silvestre was a good man utd player and i hope he does well at arsenal. all the best to him. man utd forever!
While I agree with Tim that it is a duty of managers in England (not just English managers) to nuture and foster English players. But the only two that I see who might do that who are at the top elevl are Ferguson and Wenger because they have been in it and wil be in (in Florid Face’s case, his successor) for the long term. On Cole, come on, Tim. Why did we get rid of him!? I wouldn’t want him as my neighbour, let alone as a Gunner. Well, I cannot afford him or high class hookers either For me, it even got the point in the CL final that, as much as it hurt, I wanted Man U to win rather than see him put his grubby fingers on the trophy of him (well even without him, a pox of both their hoses, but especially the Chavs; they are ruining football. Hoyte is one of the guys I am sad about because he was a Gunner to his bone, but we know in our souls he wasn’t good enough. Maybe, just maybe, if he’d been given a long run, and had been allowed like Cole to make mistakes and go on from there, he’d have done it, but I doubt it, and in any event, we had a very different team then who covered each others’s and their own mistakes. Bentley, like many others, just could not wait. The point is, though , that it was with Arsenal that he got his chance, and he would not be the player he is if he were at any other club. The facts on the ground are that the other big clubs do not do any better either, and the list of realy top players who have come through in recent years from the big clubs is actually much, much worse than Arsenal’s. Giggs abd Scholes– is that all they have left to remind us of? Remember, even Terry got his start with Senrab, a team by the way, I used to play against in the Sunday league many years ago. The only team with a serious academy that continues to push out players and who currently populate the PL is Arsenal. They don’t always play for the Gunners, but can you imagine the PL without them. My main point though is that the future belongs to the Gunners, and they, not ManU., Liverpool and the Charvs. They want to buy uscess, Arsenal want to develop it.That has to be our mantra, and I think we’ll see the results over the course of a number of years to be the best team in the land for a while.
Anybody see how great England played at Euro 2008?
Oh wait, they weren’t there…
I guess that shows what Wenger is missing out on, eh?
tim you’re a joke to the footballing community.
1. Did England even reach the Euros?
2. Its not that some Englishmen arent good, but are they not overpriced for Wenger not to buy them?
3. Isnt Cashley Cole from the Arsenal Academy? Is he not English? What about ‘top’ spurs signing Bentley? These duds also go to show what some of these English players know about loyalty and respect (read: Rooney)
4. If Arsenal doesnt have good English players, why have other clubs been snapping up our English guys? Hoyte, Sidwell, Pennant, Bentley among others.
5. Have you seen the upcoming Arsenal squad and its reserves?
thats exactly my point SYDLEY. if all premier league teams took wengers attitude we would only have 10 english players in the whole of the premier league! forget qualifing for the euros, we wouldnt even be able to qualify for sunday parks league! thats why its important for premier league teams to promote english players. but whats going on at arsenal right now is insane and the damage is permanent. it has a knock on effect to the national team. arsenal is one of the richest clubs in the world. i think 3rd or 4th by revenue and worth. and yet arsenal cannot buy players who are worth over 20mn. yet clubs like liverpool can buy torres for 20mn or even spurs can buy modric for 17mn and bentley for 15mn even man city can spend 19mn on jo. all arsenal could spend was 13mn on nasri (yet another french player!) 12mn of that was from the sale of hleb. there are alot of young talented english players that would cost less than that. wengers attitude towards english players is negative, he favours french players and arsenals debt has turned the boardroom into accountants. sir alex could spend 100mn if he needed to and so could chelsea. many other clubs could spend 50mn thanks to their owners. arsenal cant even spend 5mn! pretty football doesnt win trophies. building a team based on young home grown talent (such as man utd and chelsea) serves you for many years and wins trophies. combine that with good quality foreign players and you are unbeatable! only reason adebayor stayed is coz they doubled his pay. so much for the chairman saying arsenal wont be held to ransom! and seeing him kiss the arsenal badge during his goal celebration was sickening to say the least. fact is top english players stay with top clubs. you couldnt get gerrard to leave liverpool or rooney or ferdinand to leave man utd or terry or lampard or cole to leave chelsea etc etc. believe me any current arsenal player is buyable including fabregas. theres no shame in admitting a problem, the shame is doing nothing about it. arsenal fans need to win back their club which has been taken right from under their nose. just like man utd fans did back in ‘86.
Arsenal the only club that has a serious academy who continues to populate the PL. Are you joking ?
What about the subject matter, Man City.
Richards, Michael Johnsen, Daniel Sturridge, SWP, Ishmael Miller, Onouha, Ched Evens etc. All players who have got their start at City, and are playing either still with city or have moved on to other premier league clubs.
Open your eyes mate, there are a lot of good youth products running around.
NUMBER 22: you contradicted yourself. you mentioned those players and you said they are good. so why would arsenal sell good players????? becoz they are english! that proves my point yet again. how can england reach the euros if a top club like arsenal doesnt give english players a chance to play top flight football! the majority of english players cost a lot less than foreign players if you buy them early or if they came from a clubs academy etc. even those who cost alot like rooney or ferdinand did for man utd. once you buy an english player and they settle they stay there for their whole career and in fact it actually works out to cost less in the long run. how many strikers has arsenal had in the past few years? work out the cost of that and you could have bought 2 rooneys! thats why english players can cost more. the reason for that is coz they arent going to leave or get homesick etc. could you buy gerrard from liverpool? not a chance. no club could. arsenals youth and reserves mean nothing if they cant play for the first team which with wenger in charge means they wont. young players need experience and wenger wont give them any. for example hoyte is 23 and thanks to wenger ruining his career by not letting him gain experience he has been forced to leave to restart his professional career at 23! bentley same situation now aged 24. wenger is ‘killing’ young english talent at arsenal. chelseas wright-philips at 26 got wasted too but at least hes played for england and many times has proved hes a v good player. his biggest problem was that beckham took up the same position that he plays in so his situation is a bit dfferent. like i said above, name me 1 arsenal player that still plays for arsenal and made it through the ranks. there isnt any! theres your proof! thierry henrys son has more chance of playing in the arsenal first team than those currently in the reserves and who are english.
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Ahem…………..Looking at how England performed against the Czech, I dont think I want any of those players at Arsenal. Lets face it. England are a hopeless team. The players are a bunch of overhyped underperforming idiots who think they play in the best league(which I personally think is true) and so naturally they must be the cream of football players. I mean the English blamed Sven, then
Mclaren(not exactly undeserved in that case) and now Wenger. Who next ? I think Wenger was right in choosing to ignore these players and focus on developing some younger players who came cheap(because money was definitely a porblem at Arsenal for the last 5-6 years) even though they were not English.
if le boss dosent buy english its bcos they not good enuf. check out rooney he has not made any improvement in the last 3 yrs(compare with c.ronald). english players are not talented and are one dimensional.u can compare any english player with his mate from any other country including zimbabwe (bentley/ribery/nani..hoyte/sagna/alves…swp/obuke) and u will discover they are crap. they only good thing they have is that they are hardworking period.
Arsene Wenger has made it clear that he would not buy a player for more than the player deerves, hence the saying “right money for the right Player”. yes Arsenal is one of the richest team in the world but ask yourself, what made this team that rich? Arsenal is perhaps rich because they spend the right money on the right player. Unlike the other teams who can spend more than they have, arsenal is different and their uniqueness comes from their policy and i think it is working for them
No one can make Arsene responsible for the woes of the 3 lions. If a player is not good one cannot afford to splash large sums of money on him just because he is an english Player. A bad player is a bad player no matter what.
the subject matter is football. you just dont get it do you. how thick can you be? the more you say english players are crap the more you prove my point. how can english players get better if a club like arsenal doesnt play any!
Tim, Arsenal have no responsibilty to provide for England, in the same way Manchester United, Liverpool etc don’t. English players are over priced and over hyped - look at the fee paid for Deavid Bentley by Sp*rs this summer. Due to David Beckham’s ommision from the England setup by McClaren a new winger was required. As it was Shaun Wright Phillips failed to convincingly fill said role and attention was turned to Bentley - not throuhg quality, through sheer lack of options. Yet £15M?! Last season Arsenal finished 4 points from the Premier League title and went out to Liverpool in the Champions League quarter finals due to a dubious penalty decision. People said Arsenal were too young and needed some experience - and yet when we sign Silvestre, a seasoned player used to Premier League and with bags of experience people complain still. We haven’t got the resources of Manchester United nor Chelsea but we still have a damn good shot at winnning the league this year and sticking two fingers up at nonsensical idiots like Tim.
‘how many strikers has arsenal had in the past few years? work out the cost of that and you could have bought 2 rooneys!’
Tim, name all these strikers we have had over ‘the past few years’ and lets see if they do indeed tot up to the £50M mark (2 Wayne Rooneys).
You convientely forget Manchester United have also spent £32M on Tevez this summer (ARG) have Louis Saha (FRA) and are now reportedly close to signing Dimitar Berbatov (BUL) from Sp*rs.
Remind me what your point is? Again, I reiterate, Arsenal have no compulsory reason to provide for England.
Adebayor or Crouch?
van Persie or Heskey?
Eduardo or Defoe?
I know my answers and I suspect many others, not just Arsenal supporters can guess and why.
I think you missed my point Tim…Wenger has no duty towards the national team by paying over-inflated prices for their players
LUKE you still dont get it do you? silvestre cost 750k and kompany cost man city 6mn (im going on figures quoted in the media in both cases). surely like the topic suggests its arsenal who should be buying kompany and man city buying the likes of silvestre. have you seen kompany play? the man is awesome, hes a beast. and how can u say arsenal have no resbonsibilty to provide for england????? man utd chelsea and even portsmouth players ‘fight’ to get into the squad! thats what football is all about!!! so what your saying is arsenal could play in the french league as it doesnt matter??? as for arsenals strikers you add up the cost of henry, bendtner, walcott, van persie, pires, eduardo, wiltord, bergkamp, kanu, aliadiere, reyes, abeyie etc etc (since 2004 when rooney joined man utd from everton for 20mn) and then add the cost of losing titles such as the fa cup, premier league and champions league. the champions league alone was worth 82mn to man utd this year! and if you add marketing etc on top of that the numbers are crazy. albiet van persie and walcott play in the midfield/wings depending on team performance etc but they are mainly strikers. you also mention crouch, heskey and defoe. i personally dont rate any of them highly. my point is young english players should be given a chance, like matt derbyshire etc. and a club like arsenal should have english players. i quote ‘we still have a damn good shot at winnning the league this year’ if you really believe that arsenal can play as good as or better than they did last season then i hope u are right. personally i dont see it happening. its been a long time since arsenal won anything. even if arsenal had a 100mn to spend wenger would still fill up the squad with french players (or french speaking players). all im saying here is that arsenal needs more english players who can thrive at the club and possibly the national team. believe it or not but arsenal is actually an english club! i still cant get over the fact that you said arsenal has no responsibilty to the england squad. omg, talk about having no hope. its wenger who is sticking up 2 fingers to english players and sadly loyal arsenal fans will accept another empty season. to me thats nonsensical. remember tukey in the euros? you could buy the whole team for 10 pounds and still have change. but they believed in themselves and were proud to wear ther national shirt. to them it was a matter of honour. england players care more about their gucci shirt than they do of their england shirt. only way to bring back some pride is to play more english players in all teams to have them compete for a place. arsenals contribution? walcott on a bench. ridiculous!
SYDLEY u are right wenger doesnt have a duty towards the england squad but arsenal DOES! what you said proves it yet again. the day the england squad was announced tottenhams website ran a story about 4 of its players being in the squad. spurs took great pride in that. even chelseas website ran a story on j. cole. man utd covered the game too in depth. arsenal fans deserve that pride too.
Walcott yet isnt good enough (albeit I don’t think Eboue is or ever will be) but that will come. I think if the players are good enough then their nationality goes out of the window. Sure its nice to have young English prospects on the horizon, but as long as Arsenal win then I’m happy. Furthemore, you mention the money spent on strikers since Wayne Rooney’s arrival in Manchester in 2004. Well I’m sure its a lot less than rivals Man Utd, Chelsea and Liverpool and equally on a par with regards to English nationality. Since 2004 Reyes, Van Persie, Walcott, Adebayor, Eduardo, Baptista (loan) as well as Bendtner and Vela have come in up front. I think thats around a total of £35M, less than 2 Wayne Rooneys, not to mention the £6M regained on Reyes and £16 for Henry. You look to the other top 4 and you have Torres and Drogba both costing £24M, Shevchenko costing £30M etc. So to see Arsenal finish 4 points behind, with minimum outlay and a team bursting with youth albeit largely foreign is an accomplishment in itself. You also have to look at the bigger picture - we have several young quality English players coming through - Jack Wilshere had a impressive pre season, Mark Randall made numerous appearances in the FA and Carling Cup last season, as well as Kieron Gibbs amongst others.
LUKE i agree with some of your points you made but surely arsenal not playing any english players the past few seasons has cost england (and arsenal) dear. arsenal has young english talent but they will sadly never see an arsenal shirt. as i mentioned before wenger will sell them off as he has done for many years. look at arsenals midfield crisis right now. i bet many arsenal fans wish they had kept bentley. even when he was sold to spurs via blackburn, arsenal made i think 7mn from the deal! i dont care what nationality a player is but even a manager must have some conscience and loyality. look at portsmouths harry redknapp, he cares very much about portsmouth and the england team. thats why he has balanced his team(s) with english and foreign players. you have to see the bigger picture. englands future will come from clubs like arsenal and visa-versa arsenals future will come from england players but right now arsenal have english talent which will never get a chance thanks to wengers narrow thinking of mostly playing french players. arsenal is like buying a ferrari and keeping it in the garage and never taking it out for a spin. its pointless! wenger and the board must go for arsenal to progress in the new football world. you say players should be picked only if they are good enough well then obviously the players wenger has picked the past few seasons isnt good enough. and guess what….. they are the same players this season par one or two. i hope randall and gibbs and the rest get given a real chance to perform and not just be used for the carling cup (which isnt a major money spinner like other cups) so that the french players can be rested for the champions league and premier league etc! tottenham won the carling cup with english players. man utd won the premier league and euro championship with english players and portsmouth won the fa cup with english players. and so has chelsea won nearly everything in the past with english players. even liverpool triumphed in europe recently with english players. arsenal hasnt. a balance is needed to succeed. never include shevchenko into a discussion, roman-a bought him coz he was his favourite player. if i owned a club and had that amount of money id buy essien for 40, 50 or 60mn coz hes my favourite player. torres @ 24mn was a steal! and drogba is (or was) the best striker in the world. unbelievable strength and pace, similar to henry who was also awesome at arsenal. i wont be commenting further as i will be away. its been a good discussion i think theres nothing i can add that i havent said already. i wish all teams a safe and injury free season. hoping to see some young english talents flower and it would be even better to see them in an arsenal shirt…. we can dream i guess.
As Luke (my second name!), has said: If it’s about cost, then there is no debate. However, on the academies, since when were man city a top team? They don’t populate the Pl, they keep them where they are; and frankly other than Richards, I don’t think that any of the other mention have star quality. What was amazing about last year was that they finished 3rd, four points behind, with the injuries to some very, very key players, full of young players, many of whom can now be considered near- veterans. I cannot predict what this year will bring, but we are not going to get any worse, I think.
Yes, it would have been good had there been en English player to proud about; though frankly I am less pride at what–playing a friendly against the Czech Republic?
During the Euros, my watch was on Cesc, who I was as proud of as I would have been for any English players-– and I’d like to ask whom among you didn’t take equal pride with is achievements. Damn, he is one of us! ? What does that tell us–that I am less morally worse than anyone else for this? For better or worse, we are a cosmopolitan team; one that I think will have more Brits in the near future, but what’s thoroughly unique about Arsenal is not it’s global branding, which it is quite weak at (the hate-on anti-Adebayor crowd might resent this, but I bought an his shirt, along with a Cesc one– Theo’s was not available– here in Toronto for my daughters) but it’s at-home cosmopolitanism. Yes, for the players that we have bought, but also for the players that Arsenal have developed from all over the world, but look around the stadium, at the old Highbury and at the Emirates, and see what kind of people we pull in. I’m not expecting people to have divided loyalties, and expect people to root for the English boys when they take the field against whomever; and I also expect people to take pleasure from those kids who end up playing for England from the Gunners, but it is also not so simple anymore, no more than it is for the expectation of what managers to do for their country of work, rather than their country of origin.
Tim, have you considered the fact that Wenger has helped the national team but not the three lions?
You say how it’s Arsenal’s responsibility to provide players for England. Really? Is it?
You see, it’s easy to point fingers. The problem isn’t with the English national team, nor is it with the Premiership clubs.
The FA needs to change their outlook and start by building world-class youth centers and training facilities like the ones they have in France. That will nuture national talent.
Tim,
Maybe you make a good point I dont know. Your inability to grasp one of the most fundamental parts of the english language i.e paragraphs make your posts unreadable.
Try again. This time pause…..and breathe……then write again…..
I have a theory, and it is more than likely to be wrong, but let me put it forward anyway. To me it seems strange that Kompany would go to a club like Man City. I believe that there may be something ulterior going on within the transfer. Perhaps Man City and Arsenal have a deal going on - Wenger proposes Kompany moves to Man City for a season in a secret deal with Hughes, allowing Kompany to join Arsenal next season should he perform well enough for Man City. In exchange Arsenal line up a decent transfer and swap deal (perhaps someone like Diaby). In sum, could Kompany be an Arsenal player already, playing in the guise of Man City. I don’t know, but thought it qorth some speculation. What do you think?
what position does kompany play