Arsenal are MILES ahead of Tottenham
A simple comparison between Arsenal and Tottenham should prove the headline above.
Let’s see now:
Manager: Wenger vs Jol
Wenger and Jol both drastically changed the fortunes of the clubs once they were brought on board, but that’s where the similarity ends. Wenger’s teams are not only fun to watch but usually more attacking, mentally tough and ‘look’ capable of winning games.
Jol’s teams - more often than not, a team capable of winning matches looks nothing like it.
Arsenal wins this round.
Keeper: Robinson vs Lehmann
Robinson doesn’t win this outright, but Lehmann’s age and ability to mess things up means he loses this one. He’s past his best (although there are questions if Robinson will ever reach his best …)
Tottenham win this round.
Defense: Sagna/Toure/Gallas/Clichy vs Chimbonda/King/Kaboul/Bale
I put Kaboul ahead of Dawson, but both are quite good defenders.
Defensively Tottenham can hold their own, even though people tend to look at Gallas’ reputation as a ‘world-class defender’ and judge accordingly.
Tie for me - both Arsenal and Tottenham have quality defenders.
Midfield: Lennon/Zokora/Jenas/Malbranque vs Eboue/Silva/Fabregas/Rosicky
Apart from Lennon, Tottenham have NOTHING in their midfield that even resembles top quality. Huddlestone is raw potential, Malbranque and Jenas have talent but are limited players otherwise, and Zokora either still has a long way to go or is similarly limited and neither him nor Jol can see it.
Arsenal take this round, hands down.
Attack: Berbatov/Keane/Defoe/Bent vs Persie/Adebayor/Silva/Walcott/Bendtner
Tottenham edge it because Adebayor is average at best and apart from Persie, the other 3 still have lots to prove. Spurs strikers on the other hand have experience and quality.
Squad Depth:
I think it’s here that Tottenham are beaten, both in defense and midfield, and that’s where they really suffer in the long run.
Overall: Arsenal 3, Tottenham 2, Tie 1
If you look at the margins of Arsenal’s wins (outright) and the margins of Tottenham’s wins (just), it points to the inevitable conclusion:
Arsenal are miles ahead of Tottenham. And I hate Arsenal, so go figure.
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If only you’d been provided with a colouring book and crayons this afternoon. One football match played and the season is over and the league is won.
As usual on the back of one game the nonsense starts. I guess we can expect to see Man Utd struggling for goals this year then?
It was a shocking performance at Sunderland there’s no way in getting away from that but Arseanl were seconds from slipping up at home to Fulham.
A couple of questions though - how can you not call Tottenhams football under Jol not entertaining? Only 3 clubs broke the 100 goal barrier last year us, Chelsea and Man Utd. Sky also seemed to back this as we’re constantly on.
Plus I agree our weakness is in midfield but Eboue?!?! He’s a rb playing in midfield. Lets see at the end of the season………….
This article is funny… generally I agree with what you’ve put, but when youre looking at the various positions its a draw. Then you add ‘Depth’ which you put in Arsenals favour (again I agree) but its like you put this section here JUST so Arsenal win your comparison.
If youre going to add depth as a category then why not add ‘potential’, ‘fan base’, ‘income’… hell lets even add ‘half time snack’.
Like I say I pretty much agree with all you’ve put but just seems… biased and a bit pointless
Also who do you count as Arsenals quality players?
Senderos? Walcott? Flamini? Hoyte? Almunia?
You want to hope for an injury free season!
What a complete idiot.
Spurs have the best keeper and strikers, Arsenal the best midfield and a tie for the defense!
That surely means that first 11 for first 11, spurs have a better team!
If you’re going to argue completely pointless rubbish then do it somewhere else. You’re an embarrasment to Arsenal!
In my opinion not one of arsenals forwards would make it into Spurs front 4.
2nd Arsenals midfield is better admittedly, not miles though, without Fabregas They would be useless.
And Arsenals Squad depth????? Bent Defoe Huddlestone compared to song Bendtner and Walcott??
I’d say Lehmann is superior to Robinson and Arsenal’s defense is far superior to Tottenham’s as individuals. You’re right about midfield although Hleb seems to be missing somewhere, I wouldn’t call Adebayor an average player but Tottenham probably win up front. Your hate of Arsenal is quite clear although you do admit Tottenham are far behind. Newcastle/City/Blackburn/Tottenham/Everton will have to fight hard for the UEFA cup spots, hoping for the mighty City to come 5th.
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Are anti spurs rants on SoccerLens like london buses or something?
So Arsenal are definitely better than Spurs because Ahmed says so based on his own limited knowledge of the two sides based on one game played. Well thats that then, we’d all better give up and go home then.
You’ve seen Kaboul ONCE, as for you hating Arsenal what I figure is that you post rubbish in the hope of getting response.
Get out the windowlene and chamois - your SoccerLens is smeared
who do you support?
An interesting article, but it doesn’t address the real issue which is that Arsene Wenger understands football and knows how to organise his team…they plat great attacking football which is a joy to watch, except for the fact that I am a life-long Spurs fan and can remember when we used to play in similar style, although not at today’s pace.
On the other hand, Martin Jol has not produced a dynamic, attacking team which plays as a unit and has the drive and will-to-win….you always know that even if we get a lead against any top 10 team we are likely to blow it big time.
If the manager’s roles were reversed, Spurs would be up there challenging for the title and Arsenal would be just another bunch of confused foreigners, and that is the real difference.
Although this is basically correct until you get to squad depth, it ignores the fact that Wenger has been there 10 years, Jol 3. When Jol started, Arsenal were better in every department. In the last three years the gap between the two teams has closed every season. Wenger also has CL money to spend, Spurs do not and stick to their wage structure. This is why they have not attracted the very best midfield players, for example Petrov who just went to Man City.
Russ us right about squad depth, Spurs are improving in that department too.
If current trrends continue, Spurs will overtake Arsenal.
As regards the weekend, Spurs were crap, BUT Arsenal were only saved by a wrongly given penalty (again). If Berbatov had been given his penalty instead, we would be having a different conversation.
Spurs are miles ahead of Gunners any day. But we’ll still be above them. Suck on that…………….
Tottenham have already blown thier supposed top 4 finish at the first hurdle. Why oh why would MJ spend £16 mil on a player then leave him on the bench, they deserved to lose.
Also Russ atleast we created chances in the last seconds and were able to score, your midfield has no creativity what so ever.
iqnadirshah your a bit of a moron, when have spurs ever been on top of the gunners. IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN
I’m no fan of either but its true…
Spurs is losing simply because of the Arsenal youth structure;
generally Spurs has to buy to keep up whereas Arsenal are churnin out potential world beaters by the bucketload…
To add,Arsenal has,in Wenger,a manager who is able to get the best out of their players…from the youth to the relatively unknown but Spurs have to buy quality such as Zokora Tainio & Mido enough said…
And while it may seems subjective,what Spurs fan can do for now is face it…
you are right to a certain degree, the difference for me is the mangers because we have good midfielders, we need to see tarrabt more and the prince, i think they will make a big difference.
its BMJ thats at fault im sorry to say, he needs to be a bit more ambitious and have a more positive aproach to the games rather than this casul pass it across the pitch attitude, otherwise i think its a level par as far as the players are concerned
come on gunner4lyfe
be a bit more honest ,
the spurs squad is just as good if not may be a bit better, the difference is tha wenger has been there 11 years and jol 3, having said that i still feel jol can get much more out of this team,
the gunners were so close to losing yesterday, liverpool were lucky and chelsea cant keep clean sheets,
its the first game. im sure BMJ will get it together
To namesake Bob
Your comment flies in the face of the facts - where have you been for the last three years as the gap has been closing? You should also know that Spurs reseves have been doing better than Arsenal over the last couple of years as well.
Arsenals ‘youth policy’ is to buy younger players from abroad with their CL money (Fabregas etc.) or pay £15 million for an untried English youngster Spurs have recently been copying that policy - hence they now have the French under 21 captain and Germanys young player of the year. Why is this? - because one of Wengers main European scouts is now Director of Football at Spurs.
Mido is on his way out (at a big profit) because Spurs have outgrown him and Tainio is a squad player. The jury is still out on Zokora, I will grant you, but getting the very best is still an issue if you’re outside the CL.
Gunner4lyfe, read what i wrote and think. Like ‘who is he trying to abuse/insult/piss off?’ or ‘which team does this fellow support?’ or even ‘has he, at any point come out defending a team with all his “heart”?’………….
nick the yid…
in 3 years wenger had done the double?
already i’m hearing from most of your sap /johnny come latelys jol out.
ok he cannot be compared to wenger , but he is surely the best you’ve had since pleat in 87..apart from our ex georgie that is! .hahahahaa
to the other tool that says spurs always finish above Arsenal ??when in 93? hahahahahahahahahaaha. keep supporting our opposition yids as you will never challenge for the big trophys. you know it . i know it , all your sad fans know it. keep buying english crap, as soon as you ditch fattie robbo and 99%of your english players you might have a chance of the top 4.lennon will never be the same player since his GBH at old trafford last year by scholes and gary chuckle brother!
Yo Bob, we deserved that penalty and at least one more. The goal we conceded was by our own error as opposed to how chopra scored against spurs. A foul in the penalty box on a player on the attack with the ball is rewarded with….? A penalty kick. Its quite simple…………..
Every neutral knows Arsenal are miles ahead of Tottenham. I’m a Blackburn fan and I can safely say that playing Tottenham is just another average game for us. Playing Arsenal is a battle on all fronts.
To Dave post number 6:
Arsenal have Denilson who tore you apart, Diaby, Walcott, Eduardo, Bendtner, Flamini… seems as though you missed a few players there who aren’t starting 11.
Iqnadirshah
I agree - so why wasn’t Berbatov given a penalty?
On the other hand if an attcking player drives into the box and clatters the defender in front of him, it’s a free kick to the defending team - unless the attacking team happens to be Arsenal of course (or Man U come to that).
Seen it too many times.
We simply lack the X factor. Personally as a life long Spurs fan I am not convinced MJ is the man to break us into the top 4. I watched the arse on motd and they created bucket load of chances;4 - 1 looked more appropriate but lets face it the Arse play the classiest football, ManUtd are the team that is the benchmark, Chavs are power beaters and Liverpool have some team. Its a big ask to break through. I think last season the arse would have drawn and thats why I think they have stepped up and I am gutted we lost because really if we are to be considered a top 4 we need to win at Sunderland. Lets not write off big fat Sam either, they looked very strong compact basically a better version of Bolton… I think we need to make a change at the top at the end of this season.
Of course this all debatable, but I can accept most of it apart from your dismissal of Adebayor. He is far from average, is still relatively young, and can be a handful for any defence as evidenced at Old Trafford and White Hart Lane last season. If he can start finding the net on a consistent basis then he has all the attributes needed for a top striker. We’ll have to see more of Bendtner, D’Silva and Bent this season before drawing any real conclusions on strikers.
berbatov is better than the whole arsenal squad : D
franny dont talk rubbish dont mention headless chickens,
go to you tube and type arron lennon and find the game against arsenal,
you will feel embarassed he tore your team apart. your players had to chop him to stop him,look at the game at highbury and look at the game at the lane in the cup, he tore you to pieces
give me a break wake up
Well Sorry Ahmed too early to predict top 4 try predicting the bottom 4 first ….
I am a Manutd fan and i m shocked to see so many anti tottenham or Jol threads …
IT IS JUST ONE MATCH AND THE STARTING MATCH !
Writing off arsenal or tottenham or predicting Liverpool winning the League is absolutely stupid!
Considering the first match all big 4 started with Old starting line up with a blend of more defense that attack other than chelsea because they were force to due to injuries ….
Look at how all the 1st round matches turned out to be .. birmingham city scoring 2 goals against CECH ! I mean almost most of the teams are of known quantity or quality ! We never thought McShane or Kaboul would defend this well until we saw them in play !So Managers would want to start with a small margin win of 1-0 and considering Liverpool and tottenham had away matches it is even more tough…
Just compare liverpool and tottenham starting line up for the away fixture … both of them did not expose all their new players in the starting line up itself and infact for that matter even Manutd and arsenal did not do that !
Tottenham are surely progressing but the gap is still there but hey we cant predict that sunderland will qualify or Liverpool will win the cup just based on 1 match
Try taking these into picture:
INJURIES SQUAD DEPTH AFRICAN CUP etc.. and lets us see if the gap between the top 4 is huge in January
Tie in defencce and goalkeeping - My foot!! Do you know which team had lesser clean sheets than even Watford in the premiership…
Go figure!!!
Spurs aren’t playing for 4th place there playing to keep hold of berbatov because if you don’t finish 4th i can’t see him hanging around with no champions league football
I disagree,
Arsenal barely got 4th last season, and in my opinion have only deterioated since then, David Dein leaving, Henry leaving, Ljungeberg leaving and Wenger casting doubt over his future at the club. And have only made one significant signing over the summer in Da Silva who as yet is unproven in the Premier League.
Whereas Spurs have been slowly creeping up on Arsenal thanks mainly to there fantastic strikers Berbatov, Defoe and Keane. And have improved drastically over the summer improving the squad with Bale, Bent, Kaboul and Boateng.
Unless Wengers confidence in his youngsters pays off big style i cant see Arsenal regaining there 4th spot in the coming seasons.
sorry but arsenals midfield and defense are seriously out of tottenhams league. kolo toure and gallas are world class. You cant compare them with tottenhams lot. anyways, tottenham havent beaten us in years. Come on the gunners!
berbatov is as good as my arse! hahaha martin jol spent millions so he could lose to sunderland. haha come on the gunners! so much joy to watch tottenham suffer from our team!
Danny. You’re right about one thing which is that Arsenal were only barely fourth. They were goal difference from 2nd. As usual, Spurs won the marketing argument in the summer but now that football has started the Spurs season is has taken a turn towards reality.
Any neutral could see that there were two different qualities of clubs on display. Spurs aren’t even in the same conversation as Arsenal. There was no shock on the balance of play that Spurs deserve toi lose and the only shock for Arsenal is that they did not win 5-0.
The funny thing is that you spend 16 mill on Bent, and he is at best a poor man’s Van Persie (3 mill). Arsenal did its buying for the current squad 4-5 years ago. Clichy, Eboue, Toure (still young), Senderos, Adebayour, Van Persie, Fabregas, Bendter, Dennilson, Diaby etc., are only getting better after 2 years of experience. Bent cost more tahn all of them put together. They all now have about 2-5 years of experience, and if you can’t see what Wenger was doing you’re blind as a bat. he realized you can’t compete in the open market with Chelsea and its only through development.
Poor Spurs always a day late and an idea short. You are so busy trying to copy what Wengere was doing 10 years ago you failed to realize waht he is doing the last 4 years.
The FACT arsenal finish ABOVE Tottenham EVERY SEASON shows they are a far better team and squad. FACT. Answer your question Thierry or no Thierry we will always be better, our 2nd team beat Spurs last year in CC semi, need i say more!!!
Arsenal got 4th last year without henry & wengers staying.
spurs got so close to 4th 2 seasons ago because they played the fewest possible games in 1 season for a premiership team.
im not sure what is meant by spurs slowly creeping up on arsenal as you didnt get anywhere near as close last year.
spurs have got a good squad, good manager and play nice football. with berbatov they have a class player that a team can be built around. The future definitely looks good but i think a better manager is needed. jol is good but all of the top 4 managers bring something special and i dont think spurs will progress without a better manager.
Yeah, how can spurs fans say we were barely fourth, the season could easily have finished with arsenal 3rd and spurs 8th, have a look at the table and dont make stuff up.
Barbietov was excellent at Sunderland, what with his hat-trick and all… He is really good! I just can’t seem to find highlights of the goals on the net… Maybe rony or any other delusional spuds fan can send me a link…
is there actually a contest? I don’t think so. Look at our success over the last ten years. Spuds are just pretenders. Please all of you go back to your little holes now. If you need anymore proof look at the recent games between the 2 clubs.
You seriously are a deluded bunch of jokers. The money has been splashed around this season. But the fact is we have been there and done it. You cannot take that away - sp*rs haven’t. And from what i can see they won’t. It’s not just sp*rs who have splashed the cash. Maybe this article should be between Man city and spurs. The former are likely to finish above them anyway. Please - go on youtube and watch are players. watch are champions league runs. Watch van persie out class berbatov - all day long.
Arsene spend more years than Jol in EPL? Arsene won title in his first year in-charge. Arsene’s first 3 yrs he won EPL and FA cup, and he spent peanuts. Arsene spend the least compare to all top clubs.
Arsene wins me as a Arsenal fan from asia, simply because i like the way Arsenal play their football. Jol made me doze off during his first game this season, vs sunderland.
Wow, this article is a complete joke.
Robinson vs Lehmann: Robinson has his moments but he is clearly above Lehmann. This is a clear win for Spurs
Defense: I disagree here. Maybe a fully fit Spurs back line might even it up but at the moment Arsenal win
Midfield: Agreed, Arsenal have far more quality
Forwards: Spurs win this hands down. Van Persie is class but the Spurs quartet are a FAR better than Arsenals
Squad Depth: I go for Spurs again. They have four quality/decent centre backs (Rocha and Dawson), four top quality strikers and whilst the midfield lacks quality its definately got depth.
3 - 2 to Spurs. To be fair, Arsenal’s quality in midfield probably gets them and extra point. Both teams are close, which is how I expect it to be in the league.
Admit it Bob, we deserved the penalty. You guys also, but if the resultant kick was converted, would you have won for sure? From your team’s play, it didnt look anything like that………..
Lehman is better than Robinson.
Arsenals defence is better than Tottenhams. Their fullbacks don’t come close to ours!
Arsenal midfield dominates Tottenhams anyday. Fabregas, Gilberto, Diaby, Denilson, Hleb, Rosicky.. I would have any of those over anyone in Tottenhams midfield.
Strike force. Well see here the tricky. I don’t rate Defoe. Keane has his moments but hardly someone I would put my money on. Berbatov is awesome while Bent is consistent but just a bit more than average. At the same time Arsenal has Van Persie who is a world beater, Adebayor is not the best finisher but a really good target player non the less (Remember Drogbas first years!!!), Eduardo is going to be awesome for us, Bendtner yet another class target player who’s wanted by alot of clubs throughout Europe.
Conclusion is that I rate Arsenal strikeforce over Tottenhams. The only one I would steal away is Berbatov!
Anyone who saw Arsenal’s run to the UCL final a couple of years back or the 2006 WC really should understand why it is ridiculous to suggest that Robinson is even a patch on Lehmann.
Note: For the benefit of Spurs fans it should be pointed out that “UCL”, this is a term they most likely unfamiliar with. It is short hand for the UEFA Champions League, a competition open to all European top-division clubs but usually contested by the elite few. Arsenal have competed in this competition pretty much every year since Wenger took charge.
As for defence…Arsenal boast the league’s best LB (as voted) in Clichy, in addition to Toure, Sendaros & a player who has won it all, Gallas. The Tiny Totts King and errrrm…yeh, King, the lad who is supposedly world-class, just never gets a chance to show it.
Midfield is all Arsenal with the brilliance of Fabregas, solidity of Gilberto and the mesmerizing on-ball abilities of Rosicky & Hleb. Spurs do have Lennon who can maybe go on and become a class player but the rest of their midfield is rubbish and one can only hope they bought them using Monopoly money.
Up top is different. In Keane, El Berb & Defoe, Tottenham have proven ability. Bent was impressive last term but he is unproven considering his hefty price tag. Arsenal’s only world-class forward is the seemingly injury-prove van Persie. Support comes in the form of 3 other recent first-team additions.
Manager comparison is not even worth talking about. Jol is a chump.
So what’s that? 4-1 to the Arsenal.
Though, IMO this kind of comparison is pointless. Arsenal are well amongst the top 4, Spurs scrap with the best of the rest. It would be a worthwhile discussion if the 2 sides were evenly matched in recent seasons, but sadly thats not the case.
Competitions like the EPL, are designed exactly for this reason: to decide who is the best side overall and who is better against whom in head-to-head. Spurs haven’t topped Arsenal on the table in years and have been by Arsenal beaten in every competion in recent memory. The last time Tottenham actually won a league match against us Sachin Tendulkar was still a teenager……
Spurs can’t win on the pitch…how dare they try win the argument off it.
By the way people im not a Spurs supporter, i just belive that they are closer than any other team to break into the top 4.
Sounds right.
Now fuck off you Spurs fan’s you have nothing against us youre shit and always will be, Losing to Sunderland HA! thats totally weak Spurs, and you cannot say that result means ur challenging us for a CL spot..Pffft
For the record I am a spurs fan, and none of my comments below are related to our performance on Sat, I am looking back over past couple of seasons.
Robinson v Lehmann - How people can say Lehmann is rubbish is beyond me, he made one mistake on Sat and people are saying he’s past it? During the world cup he was prob the best keeper there. Robinson for me has been shaky since the world cup and although I think he’s quality I think he needs to get his confidence back.
Defence- This is close. Sat was not a true representation as we only had one of our first choice players on pitch- chimbonda. Dawson has been our best player for prob the last couple of seasons at the back so I wouldn’t put Kaboul above him even though he does looks good. On paper though a fully fit spurs back line does look good.
Midfield- Spurs lack that creative spark. JJ is rubbish I don’t see what he brings to the team. Lennon has potential to be class but at the mo his final ball is not good enough. Zok still has a lot to prove, for me last season he was not good enough. And of course the left side is still a big problem. Arsenal win this hands down.
Attack- Spurs have a great forward line. Bent is a proven goal scorer and I have no doubt he will score plenty of goals, but I still don’t think he is worth the hugely inflated price tag. Eduardo is unproven so only time will tell with him. For me Van Persie is over-rated I’m not a big admirer. To say Adebayor is average is a bit stupid, he is still young and causes lots of problems for most defences. Spurs win this one but if they don’t get the service its all pointless.
For me the massive difference is the manager. I have said the last couple of seasons that MJ’s tactical decisions are at times baffling. Very rarely does he make changes in a game that have a positive affect on the performance. I think spurs have done well since he has taken over but I think this is more down to the change of structure at the club rather than his influence. Wenger in my opinion is still the best manager in the league, what he has done with limited money and the way he gets his teams to play is just amazing. It pains me to complement the scum but I’m just stating facts.
I think spurs have turned around ther fortunes greatly over the past few years and being a spurs fan I am ever the optimist, but to be comparing us against the arses is jumping the gun slightly. Wait till the end of the season and see where it all lies before making stupid statements like spurs are miles ahead of arsenal. By the way spurs scraped 5th last year whereas the Arses got a comfortable 4th without Henry for the majority of the season. In my opinion still a lot of work to do.
kyle, arsenal may play better football but comments like that prove what ignorant, uneducated idiots Arsenal fans are. If you have nothing constructive to say don’t say anything you tw@t!
All these threads are making me crack up! as a MUFC fan I find it so funny reading Arsenal fans taking the p**s out of spurs fans about previous seasons they seem to be missing the point= no one is saying that Arsenal havnt been way above spurs in the last 10 years?? but wasnt they also as good as us? look now Arsenal are no where near Man u or that other team from W/London and its so funny coz that must hurt! remember the days you twats from north london used to challange us? Here and now your team is p**s poor! a Shaddow of your former selves and you know it! ok so you raised your game and beat us last season but what id like to see is a comparison between Man U and Arsenal we are better all over inc Manager & stadium its so funny to see AFC fans arguing about 4th place such a contrast I actually feel sorry for you.
In regards to this article
Id rate
Goalkeepers:
T-9 A-6
Come on Zi German is a laughing stock and Robbo is Englands #1
Def:
T-8 A-8
Both pretty weak I think King is as good as Gallas Toure is slightly better then Kaboul Bale is as good as Clichy Chimbonda is better then Eboue
Mid:
T-7 A-9
Would have been quite even had Spurs still had Carrick however Lennon and Jenas are V.good but no one can pass like Fabrigas and the AFC midfield unit is as always pretty strong.
Att:
T-10 A-6
Spurs Big 4 are quite simply the 2nd best in the prem, and a injury prone Van Persie dont even come close
Depth:
T-9 A-7
Only Man u and Chelsea can boast depth like spurs, Arsenal fans think they have depth because of some CC runs but the simple fact is put 16-17 year olds out in the prem and watch them get ripped apart!
Manager:
A-9 T-6
Jol is no where near Wenger Simple
Total:
Arsenal:45
Tottenham:49
Not saying Spurs are garunteed 4th spot as anything can happen in football just stating that on paper Spurs are all in all better! Like it or not apart from a few areas im afraid your North london rivals have caught up! so granted they aint beat you for years, granted you been in CL every year inc some great runs and granted Wenger has an impressive CV but times have changed and this season will signal the turning point! Bye Bye AFC
Which wont mean much because theirs nothing like winning the title and both teams from North London wont do that for many years to come!
Remember the old trafford pizza throwing?? glad to see your teams dimise while you stare at us from below!
Haaa haaa haaaa haaaa haaaa haaaa
REDDEVILS!
Your article is a load of crap! 1st of all, Football is a team sports not indivduals. The performance of a player can be top notch or dismay solely on where he is played and how the team plays as a unit.
If you are to make your decision based on individual players, then Arsenal shouldn’t be a top four premiership team. The MAIN difference between Arsenal and Spurs is that Arsenal has one of the best coach in the world who knows his team very well and knows how he wants his team to play, while Spurs has an average coach that has no clue on how to use the abondant talents on his disposal.
Give Wenger Spurs’ team and they will be one of the best team in the world.
spurs suck! white fart lane….Since ive known spurs they always buy strikers and strikers and strikers having 5 international strikers with no quality supply from midfield is kinda pointless! It pains me cuz they do play decent attacking football but 5 strikers and only 1 potential-quality midfielder is lame, check the teams that in the top 4 or any premiership champion and you’ll understand.
lets hope they realise this soon and start buying some creative midfielders to supply their frontmen but until then theres only going to be 1 northlondon club in the champions league…..
Mattreddevil, those 16-17 year olds thrashed the **** out of your team twice last year.
iqnadirshah what the hell are you talking about?
Are you trying to say your reserve side beat us are you crazy you managed to raise your game that was all least we didnt get out ass kicked by Liverpool, PSV, Man City, Fulham, Blackburn, Sheff united, Everton to name a few, plus we happened to win the leauge and thats just a fond memory for you, Enjoy the uefa cup next year!!
Cant see Fabrigas, Van persie and errr………Eboue??? (couldnt think of many more stars that command CL football lol) sticking around when the going gets tough
Ha Ha Ha dream on GoalShyGunners!
Ha Ha Arsenal have nose-dived and their big-headed fans know it!
5 years ago we wouldnt be having this discussion AFC where so much better then THFC now Spurs are more then capable of sending Arsenal into financial abyss! No CL £ = no AFC simple as that!
Oh how the mighty have fallen!
HA ha ha ha ha ha
COYS!
Mark P your commensts are refreshing. A nice spurs fan - yay!
Anyways, I’m a gooner:
Lehmann Vs Robinson - Lehmann wins. He’s great.
Defence - both are pretty shit and badly organised containing good players. I say Gallas and Toure are better than King and Dawson on paper. As for fullbacks Cliche looks good this season but is overrated from last; and Eboue is erratic. Sagna looks amazing but too early to tell. I say a draw.
Midfield - sorry, but Arsenal urinate on spurs. Fabregas, Gilberto, Rosicky, Hleb, Diaby, Denilson I would pick above *any* spurs midfielder, bar Lennon.
Attack - Spurs win - four great attackers. That said, Van Persie is more talented than any of them.
mattreddevil dont talk so much bollocks, we have as a group the best young talent around and it will not be long until wenger has another group of unbeatables to go to old trafford and rip u lot apart, without spending £50+ million. dont make me laugh,the yids are no where near us and they never will be. our under 12 team hammered them last season and i look forward to the day we take the title back to north london cos it WILL be sooner than u or anyone else who thinks the gunners have no chance could ever imagine.
as for the rest of you spurs fans who seem to think you have a better squad than us please just have a good think about last season when our youth team(plus 2 or 3 first team players)beat you with such ease, we even gave you lot a 2-o lead how shit can u lot be. the gap between us is huge and you will never get near to us in terms of team or class of club.
there is only 1 player at spurs who i would take and that is Berbatov, he is quality but apart from him not 1 other player would get into our first team. to say our defence is on par with spurs defence… i mean i cant believe im reading that shit its lucky i was sitting down.
anyway i think thats all but 1 simple message to leave you with. SPURS FANS STOP BEING IDIOTS YOU KNOW DEEP DOWN WE ARE AND ALWAYS WILL BE LEAGUES APART AND THATS FACT. YOU CAN KEEP DREAMING BUT YOU WILL NEVER IN YOUR LIFETIME GET THE SATISFACTION IN KNOWING YOUR BETTER THAN YOUR BITTER RIVALS THAT I HAVE HAD FOR 24 YEARS AND COUNTING.
Come on you Gunners!!
“raise your game” …is that all it takes to school ManUtd home and away these days?
Parents should not let cretinous little offspring like you offspring into the public. God forbid you embarrass yourself in the open…
How can you make a comparison after 1 game, and when top class players like King, Dawson, Eduardo, Gilberto and Adebayor are missing you dimwit. A number of players are not even 100% match fit yet.
MarkP thanks for your balanced views. I guess not all spurs fans are idiots or just here to wind people up.
Just a quick one on Bale who people are saying will be great. If Arsenal, or for that matter anyone, signed a promising 17 year old full back who had performed well in the spanish or italian second division and I came on here saying he was going to step in and be as good as chimbonda or evra or finnan you would all laugh and call me a stupid biased idiot. Just a thought
in the last three years that gap has closed…? How, in a season where spuds went out of both cups first try and we ended up concentrating on the CL after a poor start they got close. The season after they didn’t.
Arsenal are better than Spurs case closed
The real battle between Spurs and Arsenal is who’s stratergy is going to pay off, Spurs buy big and spend loads. Whereass Arsenal spend small on young foreign players with potential.
another loss 4 spurfs…, U.C.L?? well lets wait & see!
See youve toned down your comments there danny.
Nick the Yid, hows it going down there?
go Spurs!
It was a poor performance but I think Tottenham showed enough to suggest that they will avoid the drop this season.
Nice.
Hey there all u yids=D it’s now two losses out of 2.
0 points out of 6. And this was ur Home game
hello spurs fans…i dont know how one can honestly expect to get an objective opinion from both sets of supporters.lets let the results speak for themselves.spurs 2 losses from 2 games…f@ck u very much nd thanx 4 comin!!
And miles, and miles, and miles, and miles, and miles etc etc etc etc ad nauseam…….to infinity and beyond + 1 + infinity plus some more etc etc etc ad nauseam………
I put a comment on one of the other discussions a few weeks back. Saying ”Spurs had no bottle!” As you can imagine spurs fans replied with things like ”Cheap shot” and ”bollocks”. Also that ”they would be screaming for Jol’s head before Christmas”.
How nice it feels for Spurs to prove me right once again!!
Come on Derby!
The difference between Arsenal and Spurs isn’t fourth and fifth. The difference last season was 8 points minus Henry & Van Persie. The season before the difference was 2 points, however dont forget Arsenal had fourth place well and truly tied up for a good few weeks before the Champions League Final.
So realistically for me the difference isn’t 1 position it is a good 10-20 points, which could be a lot more positions this season. Even more if spurs don’t sort themselves out soon.
Champions mindset is important. This is what makes a world class team from a not world class team. U could clearly see the Arsenal players fight till the end despite trailing by a goal. What makes a World class player? For me skills is important but not as important as a player mindset. The thing Arsene Wenger clearly look for in a player is not only his skills but his ability, mindset and winning mentality. U can have 11 David Ginola for example, he is class to watch but he aint world class. Only four teams in the premiership I feel have the mentality Man U , Chelsea, Liverpool and Arsenal of course.!
Defo! John, thats where bottle comes in to it. It’s in the mind! Spurs hae bought decent players such as Bent but when has he ever shown tat he is a winner?? Never! He’s plated a couple of above average seasons for Charlton one of which they were relegated. Great, lets buy the best of a bad bunch!
Arsenal have bought winners.
Eduardo - Top goalscorer in his country! (2yrs in a row)!
Fabianski - Polish goalkeeper of the year (2yrs in a row)!
Sagna - french cup winner & tipped for France 1st team!
not just good players, good playrs with a purpose!
You tell him Lee! Tottenham might have spent big money for their players this summer but, none of them have proved their worth. The only good player in Tottenham’s squad is Lennon.
Arsenal might have lost Henry to Barcelona, but they’ve still got some classy strikers.
Walcott=The next Henry!
Van Persie=The next Bergkamp!
Adebayor=The next Kanu!
just because Spurs fans are deluded doesn’t mean that you get away with it as well
Spurs squad has two very good strikers (Robbie Keane and Berbatov), a good defence (Bale, Chimbonda, Dawson, Kaboul, King) and a decent keeper (Robinson).
Lennon is not their only good player - he’s not even their best or most important player. He’s just the one that gets the most hype in England.
*flush*
The sound of Jol’s money down the toilet. Seriously, i’m still giving them till September to turn it around, after which all bets are off.
An Absolute brilliant article by Ahmed again..
it depends on what the brilliance is based on..
the reason it is brilliant is cuz its able to draw 76 comments (mainly from spurs and gunners fans) its pretty interesting to read comments from fans of both clubs fight it out. i’ll give you a 10/10 Ahmed for being able to create so much publicity with this article, but i have to agree w most out there that your article is pretty biased so early in the season.
lastly, i’d like to quote what my friend once told me..
“no matter how much you’d like to defend or criticise other teams, they(refering to the footballers) are still happily earning the tens of thousands a week” =)
i dont hear spurs fans arguing about why they will pip arsenal to fourth…come on lets hear it spuds. I told you w@nkers to shut it until season started but you wouldnt listen. I for one will be ecstatic if spurs f@ck it up again the next time they play. This will prove once and for all that you guys are not in our league and will further prove that our coach is a hell of a better tactician than yours…its time you accepted the fact, took a seat and shut the f@ck up.
Im tired of these spurs pussies talking sh@t all the damn time. Was painful listening to them in pre season but now…gosh…their silence is deafening. Go on spuds…say sumthin…yeah i didnt think so…f@gs!!
Spurs definitely need to beat Derby, because they have Man united after that! Derby have looked ok so far i reckon spurs could be a good chance for 3points!
Now how do all the Spurs fans feel that made the comments on this post? Hows the relegation zone feel?
Roll on Gunners!!!