Owen – unfortunate and misused at Madrid but did really well there.

Beckham – fought his way back into the side to win a league title in his last season at Real (in part as a result of his efforts). I believe Real would have renewed his contract, but it was his decision to go to LA – a decision which effectively means he will never play top class club football again.

Owen – had an excellent season at Real despite being used as a substitute for most of it. In fact, he had one of the best goal scoring rates in the league, given how few minutes he played. His subsequent problems have all come as a result of his injuries at Newcastle, not because he went to Spain.

Van Nistelrooy – As you say, he has adapted quickly, and he won the pichichi (top goalscorer) title in his first season at the club with 25 league goals.

Woodgate – a truly unfortunate player. He arrived injured and then proceeded to fall injure donce again after he had recovered. he thereafter fell out of favour just as he was making a comeback on loan to Middlesbrough. Not sure you could describe his career as ‘crippled’, given he still plays in the Premiership and got one or two call-ups to the national side.

If Real had just conducted themselves normally, like any other club, and made an bid we would all be happy. The bid would be rejected, they would come back with a higher bid and we would go round this loop until they stop bidding or it’s accepted. Every player has a price; for Ronaldo it’s probably 80M. This is exactly what Man Utd did with Hargreaves and what they are doing with Berbatov so stop comparing the two situations. All this crap about “he’s our number 1 target”, “Man Utd should allow him to leave”, “it’s nothing to do with us, it’s an issue between player and club”, “we will offer him 300K/wk”, “we are waiting for the player to say he wants to join us”, “if Man Utd want to call us we can start negotiating” etc etc is just nausiating.

How can anyone say Real Madrid have done no wrong? FIFA haven’t punished them simply because FIFA don’t have any rules to prevent this ridiculous behaviour. And of course because Blatter is an honourary member of Real Madrid….

somebody say the Ronaldo saga is quite old and full of junk. but still there are people who try to claim their side is the right one and the other is not.

Talking about Ronaldo wants to leave, we have to admit, he really wants to leave, but we all know that it’s not him to decide. dont you think it will become messy and something funny when a player states that he wants to leave, and the club just let him leave.

To leave a club, we talk about contract between the club and the player. no one force a player to sign contract if he doesn’t want. so i strongly support Fabio Canavaro comment that a player should see out his contract, respect his word.

You know the influence of money, sure he dreams for Real, and coincidentally, a big offer comes up, so it fuels a young boy mind to say something which he knows should be said at later time.

Real Madrid, biggest club in the world, that’s a memory. come on, wake up to see the reality.

Ronaldo has been VERY CAREFUL not to say he wants to leave meerly to say he wants to join Madrid (as he has for the past five years), he knows he is not the only person in control of his destination so is leaving himself in a position whereby if he doen’t get his dream move (and I accept it is his dream move), he can simply say that he never said he wanted to leave.
If he wants to move then he should put in a transfer request WHICH HE HASN’T.

Then along come the modern politics of presidential elections and candidates who will knife their grandmother to get elected, never mind give assurances about buying every world class player on the planet. Bear in mind that these promises are made without consulting with the club manager or what he wants for the team. Somewhat irrelevant maybe considering the rate Real turn over managers (20+ in the time Ferguson has been at Old Trafford).

Players too have become mere commodoties and the whole galacticos programme was a farce. Because of the way Real operate the club, they have ubderachieved considering their position of domination and financial clout. The current regime disrespects and walks on the great legacy of the club and I’m sure there are people from that era at Real who cringe at today’s goings on.

That said, they can run their club any way they like. Give me loyalty, continuity of players/manager and team spirit any day.

As for the biggest club in the World….you can set certain parameters to judge this by but even then it always comes down to bias and opinion. Let’s just say that Bayern is the Greatest is one of the biggest arseholes in the world.

Now, as last, there’s something beyond dispute!