A tale of two trebles: Manchester United v Barcelona
By winning the Champions League on Wednesday evening Pep Guardiola could stand be chucked in the air safe in the knowledge that he had become the first manager in Spain to have won a treble that comprised of a league and European Cup double.
Even though they failed to retain the Champions League it’s still been a truly magnificent season for Manchester United too and while it may be considered something of a ‘poor man’s treble’, a treble they have won nonetheless.
So Barcelona are the kings of Europe for this season at least, but can it really be said that they have had the better of campaigns? I’ll leave that for you to decide.
Domestically Superior
While Barcelona have been an irresistible force in La Liga this season, breaking records left, right and centre, Manchester United have gone about their business somewhat more quietly but just as effectively in the Premier League.
An overall points tally of 90 put pay to Liverpool’s impressive title charge and is a total that they have only surpassed once before in a 38 game season back in 1999/2000. Lest we forget it has been a draining season that has seen United exceed 65 games and as well as going off to Japan to win the World Club Championships, Ferguson’s side also won the Carling Cup and reached the semi-finals of the FA Cup too.
Of course you can’t argue with Barcelona’s supremacy in Spain this season having comprehensively charged towards the league title, staving off the once prominent threat of Real Madrid along the way. Add the Copa Del Ray and of course the Champions League to the reckoning and when you bear in mind that this has been achieved with a pretty minute squad as well, it makes Barca’s achievements this season all the more remarkable.
Results against Rivals
It’s always a good idea to look at a club’s results against their closest and often bitter rivals as a decent benchmark for comparison and against the current top four teams in Spain, Barcelona have pretty much wiped the floor with the lot of them. Back in September Guardiola’s side smashed Atletico Madrid 6-1 and a couple of months later they travelled to a decent Sevilla outfit and beat them 3-0.
Despite narrowly losing to Atletico in the return meeting at Vicente Calderon, Barca brushed Sevilla aside at the Nou Camp and need I even mention their two meetings with Real Madrid? Well for those of you who may need reminding, a late surge in the first El Classico of the campaign saw the Catalans triumph 2-0 and in a performance of real zest and potency, Barca made a mockery of their fierce rivals by humiliating them at the Bernabeu 6-2.
In contrast Liverpool manager Rafa Benitez masterminded a double winning feat over Manchester United, embarrassing them in the process with a resounding 4-1 win at Old Trafford. While Sir Alex Ferguson’s team rallied to take Chelsea apart in January, a defeat to Arsenal at the Emirates in November didn’t bode well. Add to that a further couple of draws against both the aforementioned London clubs and Ferguson was left with just five points from a possible 18 against his closest adversaries for the title.
Defensive credibility
Despite their less than impressive showing the other night, I don’t think this one’s even a contest and while most of you would probably be forced to agree with me, the statistics do go some way to question my judgement. Yes while on paper Barcelona possess a somewhat weaker defensive unit than United, the La Liga champions have only conceded 34 league goals this season and can boast the best defensive record in Spain.
Although compare that to United and you begin to realise exactly why Sir Alex Ferguson has such a fervent case for defence. In England’s top flight United have conceded a mere 24 goals while on average in the Champions League they afforded their opposition just over half a goal every game since they began the ultimately unsuccessful defence of their crown back in September.
Let’s face it, no game in the Premier League is easy these days which demonstrates just how impressive Edwin van der Sar’s domestic clean-sheet record of 21 hours without conceding proved to be.
In Ferdinand and Vidic United have arguably the strongest centre-back partnership in the game at present although even young Jonny Evans has proved a more than capable replacement at numerous stages during the season. The form of Rafael and John O’Shea at right-back has forced Gary Neville out of the reckoning for the most part and while cutting a figure of inconsistency at times, Patrice Evra has been an ever-present at left-back.
Attacking style and flair
Sir Alex Ferguson and Pep Guardiola are clearly blessed with an embarrassment of riches when you look at their respective starting elevens. Littered with some of the finest footballers in the modern game, just a brief look at some of the attacking options both teams have almost brings you to salivation.
Barcelona have this extraordinary three pronged strike force of Messi, Henry and Eto’o while United look to Ronaldo, Rooney, Berbatov and Tevez as their primary attacking threat. But just listen to this. The Catalans, with that fearsome threesome at the forefront, have conjured up an astonishing 104 goals in La Liga this season with the aforementioned trio contributing 71 towards that tally alone.
While Manchester United are a fluid and at times breathtaking counter-attacking side, that fascinating front four I mentioned earlier have only mustered up 44 Premier League goals between them. Of course that’s not catastrophic by any stretch of the imagination but it doesn’t even come close to matching what Messi, Henry and Eto’o have achieved as a unit.
It would be easy to argue that the Premier League is a far tougher environment than La Liga and United have often opted for a far less attacking but effective outlook throughout the season but in my opinion you can’t take anything away from that Barcelona front line. As long as Guus Hiddink isn’t in sight, it’s pretty unstoppable.
Messi vs Ronaldo
It has been a fundamentally decent season for both Messi and Ronaldo and separating them is a difficult task but when you look at his goals and influence on the Champions League Final, the little Argentine takes it for me.
Yes while Ronaldo finished as the second top scorer in the Premier League and at times single handedly carried United to the Final of Europe’s premier club competition in Rome it was Messi who stole the show when it mattered most.
Messi’s performance was simply sublime the other night. A menace if you like as he glided past challenge after challenge, contributing a goal to his team’s cause too. At the other end of the pitch despite a surprising look of desire and determination, Ronaldo just couldn’t get his side back into the game however hard he was trying.
Throughout the season Messi has been the main focal point for Barcelona and with 38 goals and 16 assists, the World Player of the Year crown surely awaits.
Topics: Barcelona, English Premier League, La Liga, Manchester United, UEFA Champions League



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As a member of the Catalan nation, I’m speechless to constantly hear all these questions about who had the better season.
What must Barcelona do to earn the respect of English club fans. How can this question even be legitimate. We won the “real” treble. We beat United in the biggest stage of the game. And Obviously the brutish defensive tactics so strongly boasted by English clubs, is inferior to the flow Barca possessed. I just don’t see where anyone can argue that United had a better season.
Manchester United is a world class club, and you had an amazing season, and nothing is to take away from that. But don’t knock the Blaugrana because of blind arrogance and obedience to the English blood in your veins.
May 29th, 2009 @ 18:26Man United didn’t do to bad considering that this was a hangover season for them, with all the games they had, its a miracle they won the league
May 29th, 2009 @ 21:35‘messi’ performance was simply sublime the other night’??? I’ve seen messi played so much better. Iniesta and xavi’s performances was the difference in the game. Not to mention the error-prone puyol performed remarkably very well at rb( a position he hasn’t played in a long while.)Not a very good article, only stating the obvious and stats. Football is not a game of statistics(unlike most north-american sports). The beauty of the game is beyond numbers that’s why it’s senseless to make arguments on the basis of goals scored and cleansheets between barca and man utd especially when they don’t play in the same league. Both teams obviously had a good season. Man utd could have still been gunning for the quintuplet if they fielded a stronger team against everton. Barcelona was going for the treble. The only thing that matters between the two teams is when they played each other. Barca won.
May 30th, 2009 @ 02:53@Jonathan: I don’t think anyone is taking anything away from Barca. Fearflash sums it up though. You can’t actually compare two teams playing in different leagues and their achievements.
What you can compare is the 1 competitin they both competed in and Barca are unquestionably worthy Champions and a great side.
May 31st, 2009 @ 11:16Jonathan:
> As a member of the Catalan nation, I’m speechless to constantly hear all these questions about who had the better season.
What must Barcelona do to earn the respect of English club fans.
How about winning the Champs League without the help of Ovrebo ?
It has to be said, though it looks like everybody has forgotten by now (as usual), Barca’s win was not as clear-cut as everybody says now. (First of all the Barca fans, obviously.) Sure, they beat ManU pretty soundly, but maybe that was more than a bit lucky too. Anyway, that was at least within the rules. With Chelsea, there’s a big question mark. On FairFootball they’re the winners and that’s not for nothing.
May 31st, 2009 @ 18:44@Jonathan:
I share your sentiments. Man Utd’s “treble” is not a treble in the true sense of what a treble means in modern football. For Man Utd to list the Premiership, the World Club Championship and the Carling Cup as the treble means that Liverpool’s accomplishments in 2001 should also be given the same classification. That we’re even trying to compare what Barcelona did this season in the same vein as Man Utd is looking at things from a purely Manchester United point of view. This was a remarkable season for los blaugranas… one that even surpasses their accomplishments with Cruyff and the Dream Team. At first when I saw this article I thought we were comparing 2009 to 1999.
If some fans feel that they need to put an asterisk b/c of Ovrebo, so be it. Nothing can take away from Barcelona’s thorough victory in the final against Manchester United.
June 1st, 2009 @ 02:12I don’t that most Utd fans would argue with what Daniel says. I don’t consider it a “treble”. We won the PL (No.1 priority) and two extra baubles. Good season and I’m happy with that.
Barcelona on the other hand had a historic season.
June 1st, 2009 @ 02:22When i saw this article i thought it was comparing man united’s TRUE treble to Barca’s That is an article i would like to read!
BD Condell much respect finally a completely honest down to earth fan!
Visca Barca Visca Catalunya!
ps for those of you who say Barca did not deserve to beat chelsea.. what about the first leg did everyone just forget about Chelsea’s park the bus tactics? And for Barca to score a goal a man down at Standford Bridge is enough in itself to show they belong in the final… Abidal’s redcard was a horrible call, and barca didnt ask the ref to ignore those Pens… he prolly was feeling bad for sending poor abidal off
June 1st, 2009 @ 03:46Well, last time I checked park the bus was legal.
To be sure, I’m not saying Barca clearly didn’t deserve to win. Just that it’s not that obvious they did deserve it either. Because of Ovrebo, things are shady. It’s phrases like “undisputed winners” and the like that I don’t agree with. With respect to their tie with Chelsea. With ManU things were a bit clearer.
> Abidal’s redcard was a horrible call, and barca didnt ask the ref to ignore those Pens
I wonder what you’d have said if the pens would have been for Barca, and they’d have lost because of it.
> he prolly was feeling bad for sending poor abidal off
Except most of them were before the sending off.
Anyway, as for the title and immediate subject of the article, of course ManU’s treble is no real treble and doesn’t compare to Barca’s, no dispute here. And nobody denies they’re a magnificent team and had a very good season. Let’s not forget many thought they were the underdogs because of their depleted defense (myself included), and this didn’t stop them to dispose of United the way they did. This can’t be taken away from them. It’s just too bad things happened like this with Ovrebo and Chelsea.
June 1st, 2009 @ 12:27Anyway, my respect to you too for at least admitting those pens, many Barca fans don’t.
June 1st, 2009 @ 12:29