5 reasons why Thaksin is bad for Manchester City
From the outset I’ll say two things - one, that this is a friday rant and as such it’s meant to poke fun at someone and two, relax guys, it’s not as if I’m mortally wounding you guys. Take a reality check, step back, try to enjoy it and if you can’t, well, piss off or something.
Ok, with that out of the way, where were we? Yes, the 5 reasons why Thaksin (and his takeover) are (very) bad for Manchester City FC and especially Manchester City fans.
- Thaksin is a closet Manchester United fan (scroll down to the bottom of this page and see the photo on the right) - from 2001! Apparently when he found out United were too expensive, he went after Liverpool and when they turned him down because of the risks of being associated with a potentially corrupt politician (just like Liverpool turned down Arab involvement), he’s finally come down to City.
3rd choice. How does that feel?
- Thaksin rates Eriksson very highly:
He’s got a very good reputation, he’s a very capable coach.
Ummm…ok. A manager with no Premiership experience and one who hasn’t managed a club for 6 years. And that’s without discussing Eriksson’s capabilities.
- Thaksin knows little about football or the Premier League (apart from the money involved in it (see point #1)):
“I am very new to the Premier League.”
(source)
Not exactly inspirational, is he?
- Thaksin’s political history is that of a man who promised a lot and delivered little. Thaksin’s promised that Manchester City FC will be a very changed place in three years, which is a political promise, not a business promise. If you’re running a football club by the numbers you have to win games and that’s not something that can’t be determined within the confines of a business plan.
So if Thaksin’s promises are political, we’re likely to short-term positive results and then…well, you know the rest.
- Sven Goran Eriksson is his first choice, AND he has 3 backups lined up. Do you guys remember who Eriksson’s backup was in his England times? Would you take a manager of his calibre at Manchester City if your club has been bought and handed a 50m transfer kitty?
From those 5 reasons, the only plus point of Thaksin taking Manchester City over is the fact that he has money.
Oh well, who said football wasn’t about money anyway? Not Manchester City fans surely, especially not after their city rivals got bought out, right?
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#6 - Thaksin’s delusional as well.
no disrespect but how does anyone called ahmed bilal have a clue about football especially football humour sorry but your not funny you red twat
thaksin has had a keen interest in football, thats why he met the scum, who are big in asia what do you expect, so there’s 1/3 gone.
the fact about thaksin is he did get alot done, thats why the elites didnt like him. 1st om to last a full term in thailand, he’s a populalist and has STRONG background in business being very succesful. he subsidsed healthcare in thailand and aids treatment, balanced the country’s budgets and slashed public debt, redistributed the wealth through he own creation of a student loan company to widen university access to lower-income families. thailand has succeded under him. On the drugs front, 1/3rd of thailand are ‘addicted’ now our own drug policy doesnt work at all, the problem is far greater in thailand, strong action was taken against drug lords and it proved succesful to a degree
- then there is sven- who was pretty succesful as an england manager if you look at his win ratio, he has achieved doubles in italty,portugal and sweeden, in his 1st main job he got his sweedish team promoted twice in two years..he’s been to european cup finals with the likes of benfica, won the cup winners cup and the the domestic double with lazio. - he may of had a well publicised private life, but so do the beckhams who are treated like demi-gods. He’s far more capable than the likes of stuart pearce, and those who have been linked with the club including all english managers named who have achieved nothign near his standard. he will be up there with the top managers int he premier league
do you run this site - because i would like to pick you up on something
‘dispense with the bullshit and present the bare truth to our readers.’
try doing this, rather than reeling out recycled views that have been in the press for the past few days. writing with a bias, you might as well change the site to a ‘yoonited blog’ becuase what you are doing at the moment is lazy, ill-informed, biase, press influenced opinons, not what you say your site is about.
Wholly inaccurate and not funny
1) First and foremost he was a football fan with no particular club affiliations - until now
2)Eriksson’s CV. Only mnager to win double in 3 countries
3)Thaksin bought TV rights to the Premiership for a previous business. He might not be an expert, but he knows more about football than you do
4)Promised a lot and delivered little. Tsunami. Widely recognised for managing crisis. He turned Thai economy, and his policies have been Thaksinomics. Introduced health and rural reforms that improved the life of the rural poor.
Served two terms as Thai Prime Minister. The longest ever stint, and there are still people demonstrating on the streets to get him back.
He was overthrown in a Coup D’etat
5) Is just daft
A typically piece written from a rags point of view everything he’s said you’ve tried to say something bad but typicaly Rags are too thick for that. At least or takeover wont plunge is int debt like Glazer’s takeover of the Stretford Utd Yankees
Hardly an inspired peice of research. You seem to have come to the conclusion that he has not been a life long supporter of City and is in fact only in it for ego/profit purposes - well done. So that puts him on an equal footing with every other premiership chairman then.
Your points 2 and 5 are the same.
A twelve year old would have come up with a better analysis.
Well Said Tito.
i take it you are a man u fan getting bitter
Tito, to be fair, he does from the outset give a disclaimer waning it is a Friday rant based on slight comedy.
man city have no hope. this is better for them than nothing.
Ahmed it amazes me how every rant you make, no matter how long of a disclaimer you accompany it with, attracts a bunch off misinformed immature fan boys who can’t take a joke if their life depended on it!!!!
[Jade]
The immaturity kinda explains it doesn’t it?
[City Blue]
You should know better than to trash fans outside of Manchester, now that your club is supposed to depend on the largesse of an outsider. And don’t start justifying your takeover. At least the Glazers made money from legit sports businesses, not from some dubious tax payer money (or whatever).
Jade - call it a remorseless social experiment.
Arite guys, let’s take the comments one by one.
#2 - that would be considered racist in certain areas - I personally don’t give a damn because I hear this sort of crap from UK-based football fans, but maybe those rioting west ham fans from a couple of weeks back may want to look at this reaction?
#3 & #4 - tito - please read the disclaimer at the top of the article. If you wish to argue the specifics, then mind you that points 2,5 and 6 are personal opinion, 1 and 3 are OBVIOUSLY made up and 4 is once again something that very few people know fully about. I presented one view of it, through a news source. Not my own views. If you’ve got something alternative, bring in the source.
#5 - as the note at the top says, if you don’t find it funny, piss off.
#6 - well yea, of course it won’t plunge you into debt. He’s buying your debt out, which is great and plus brings in money into the club. I didn’t argue against it, did I? As for ‘typical’ opinions, sir, I’d be offended if I thought you knew better.
#7 - yes, except that this isn’t analysis.
#8 - agreed
#9 - Getting bitter about what, exactly? Eriksson? about Man City vying for 2-3 european spots along with Spurs, Villa, Pompey, Everton, Bolton, Newcastle and Blackburn (I’d throw Reading and Sunderland into that mix as well)? No debt? Well debt is debt, we accept our burden and live with it.
#10 - Don’t bother mate, if they knew how to read they wouldn’t comment. Oh wait, that didn’t sound right, did it?
Pwn3d!
Still embarrassing yourself I see Ahmed. Heres your five reasons rolled into one- Your a blinkered red and as such cant stand the thoughts of liddle ol’ ciddy coming good. Go on admit it, I bet you dont.
RR - actually Thaksin made most of his supposed fortune before he came into power, although I think there were issues with him declaring his full assets.
dabz - i’ll humor you. i’m a blinkered red. now go read the first few lines of the article.
Your writing doesn’t get any better does it. Yesterday City where £60 million in debt. Today no debts. If it goes tits up, City make £60 million. It’s a win win win.
And they say City fans are bitter………….
actually, they say that fans can’t read, but what the hell
let’s go with your version of the truth for today.
Assuming there aren’t we it’s a bit sexist, just because I obviously know more than this than you saying “As for ‘typical’ opinions, sir” actually it’s Miss get your facts write right for once in you boring little life
This guy is a gem,should be working on the Manchester United Evening No News or doing a comedy act.
Must support the £560 million in debt club based in stretford.
How about some hard facts ?
united owe £560 million, the intrest alone accounts for 85% of thier match day revenue.
The glaziers are frantically orginising a second restructuring of the debt and will offload thier cowboy outfit at the first oppertunity.
Yee Haw!!!!!!
I’m not going to comment on your crap because your a hypocrite! I’ve just read your “rules” and apparently I’m not allowed to call you a cunt (but I am allowed to type the word) but, you also say that anybody posting on here should have something valid to say, so when are you going to say something valid? Just because its friday you can change the rules? ok YOUR A ….!
Ever thought of writing the political column in the Daily Mail - complete drivel like this would go down a storm. Don’t let the facts get in the way of a good story… … and by the way your are not funny you sad rag tw*t.
I like how these randoms come in from newsnow, trash the site and log off thinking they have proved a great point and stuck it to ahmed. obviously they dont read, and most of them seem to be dillusional at it ! why would a united supporter be jealous of city ? they have NOTHING we want or need. and about this whole debt thing. The reason why united are in such massive debt is because there arnt many people in the world who can afford to buy it ! They are rejoicing about 60 million in debt wiped out, hell we might end up spending that much this transfer window ! if 560 million in debt means winning the premiership, signing the worlds best players and reaching the semis of almost every cup tournament for a few years, then bring on the debt !
Your over leveraged masquerade is drawing to a close, brag about your past glories written in black and white but your future is a heavily in debt red.
The Glaziers want out, over borrowed, Joel always wanted a cowboy outfit but now they have one there is no return on capital.
Keep whistling in the dark, you dont have to bring on the debt it’s there and no one in thier right mind would touch it. You could always do a Leeds United !
Yee Haw Partner
For me I don’t have a massive problem with this article. It’s purely opinion, which he’s entitled to have, it’s clearly got a disclaimer at the top saying don’t read it if you don’t want to get annoyed, City fans.
The only thing that I think is misguided in it is saying you are going to rant, telling City fans not to read it, and then digging at us - “third choice, how does that feel”. Also, this is nonsensical - “Would you take a manager of his calibre at Manchester City if your club has been bought and handed a 50m transfer kitty?”
Are you trying to create a club on this site, for United fans? It points towards this site becoming increasingly based around United fans and their opinions, and little digs at clubs they don’t like, which is not a good thing.
The other thing that’s a bit off is that you’ve entered into a slanging match with these City fans - if you are going to write something like this, then you should expect some kind of backlash, despite saying you don’t want it. Saying City fans can’t read is a bit stupid really, but if you’re that “bitter” *wink wink geddit* about us getting taken over that you’ll stoop to made-up insults.
On the actual matter of the takeover, I’m gutted about it - a. because it makes us look like hypocrites, for calling the scum “yanks”, b. it’s us, and won’t go to plan and c. Sven, and his mythical “great club record”.
A - “they don’t read?” Fantastic, well reasoned point, becaus eall these City fans on here, reading and then commenting and quoting from the article probably can read. Just a bit illogical that is. It’s “delusional”? How does that work(byu the way, maybe you should learn to spell, before commenting on other people’s skills. You encompass what is wrong with many Manchester United fans - “why would a united supporter be jealous of city? they have NOTHING we want or need. and about this whole debt thing.” Arrogant, because I know plenty of Manchester United fans(proper ones, not hangers-on) who wish they could have the local support that they once had, and not glory supporters.
“They are rejoicing about 60 million in debt wiped out, hell we might end up spending that much this transfer window!” Brilliant reasoning. We should want the debt to stay, shouldn’t we? Obviously. Just because you can spend £60m, we should say “Shinawatra mate - forget clearing the debt. Let’s rack some more up”. What a ridiculous point…
I’m from Manchester, living in Kendal now, and I’m not interested in arguing with misguided United fans, but if any of them actually wants to discuss the takeover, without their arrogace forcing them to reduce it to how it works within the context of “their club”, then that would be good.
Thaksin did some good for Tland, but is essentially corrupt and a dictator. I was there. It is betty that a slap in the face for city, and just as dodgy as a russian oiligarch commanding chelsea. Dont kid yourselves, its pretty dirty money.
To be honest, I’ve criticized many of your articles on here Ahmed as being more than biased and based on interpretation rather than fact, but I found this to be humorous. And the fact that there is a disclaimer for comedy should rescue you from those who do not see this as truthful.
Alrighty you guys- sod all of the united/city arguing. Sod all of it and you’re still left with a dodgy businessman trying to buy a premiership club and bringing in his own world class manager; the same manager that wasn’t good enough for the natiuonal side?? He aint good enough for England but he’s good enough for City? Again, sod all of the bickering- you knwo it’s a pile of pooo
and yup, I’m a united fan, and yup we got bought up by businessmen from elsewhere but hey, we got cris ron, we get champs league footy, we have talent coming through the ranks. What do city have?Well they don’t have Stu, oh but they have Micah Richards.. and Nicky Weaver? Hmmm.
City fans, forget the bias, nothing to get all happy about, I’m a united fan who aint happy about the Glazers, you lot should be up in arms over this Thakshin shindig!
And Brian W- voice of reason; champ manc u… geddit, manc u/man u? Go on, grass is greener on the other side…
Dont scam…Thanksin has only broken thailand laws…He give money to his wife to buy a piece of land…Theory wise,it is not breaking the law but in thailand, it seems as though it is illegal to buy anything while you are prime minister…So theorywise he is a clean man…Get your facts right man
The only thing that appears to be out of context in this article is point four. Although I don’t understand why Ahmed takes a swipe at Eriksson, it is a perfectly legitimate opinion. City fans, wake up and smell reality, this takeover is not the best thing that has happened to your club in recent history and try no to be bitter about it.
Dabz? Do you really feel thht “little old ciddy” will be coming good with Thaksin taking over??? Woof, you obviously aren’t put off by all the baggae he comes with…and the fact that he’s a united fan at heart!
While one has to admit that Thaksin has done good for Thailand in terms of debt restruction, administrative reforms, healthcare etc etc one can not dispute the fact that he made shit loads of money using his influential seat of power - that too in the region of 1.8 billion dollars … If you care to know just google on him …
And City Blue
If Thaksin is to realize his plans, then you may soon need to change your nick as you would no longer to be able to say “At Least Our Fans Come From Manchester” …
#26 - Josh:
Are you trying to create a club on this site, for United fans? It points towards this site becoming increasingly based around United fans and their opinions, and little digs at clubs they don’t like, which is not a good thing.
The United fans site is over at redrants.com. As this (soccerlens) is essentially a blog written by one person (with generous article contributions - thanks everyone!), a lot of it is going to have my views on it.
It sucks if you think I’m trying to build a site where people can come and bash other clubs - not at all. The previous article on Thaksin and City was quite straightforward and based on my doubts on Eriksson, and everyone still bashed it because, god forbid, if anyone questions the policies of your club (not your club - i’m talking about the reaction of any fan whose club is being discussed), he must hate them.
RedRanter sent me the Thaksin - Fergie picture, I thought it was funny and I put it up with a list.
Yes, there IS criticism of clubs on this site. That holds true for Ferguson and United as well as for Wenger and Arsenal, or Liverpool or CHelsea or anyone else.
The problem with criticising a blog based on one article is that you usually lack a sense of perspective - I’ve been writing here for over an year and I usually try to put up a disclaimer when I go on a baiting rant.
The other thing that’s a bit off is that you’ve entered into a slanging match with these City fans - if you are going to write something like this, then you should expect some kind of backlash, despite saying you don’t want it. Saying City fans can’t read is a bit stupid really, but if you’re that “bitter” *wink wink geddit* about us getting taken over that you’ll stoop to made-up insults.
Hope you stick around mate - I don’t have much faith in Eriksson’s man-management skills but the takeover should do City good. Come on, I know that much
Ahmed Bilal- you run this blog? Keep up the good work bro; twerps like ‘brownyboy’ need to ask themselves what colour their blood is- red. What colour your blood is Ahmed Bilal- red. We’re all the same inside, just some of us have kitty litter for brains and spout racist nonsense- ‘brownyboy’, you’re a silly blue, big time. To all the normal City fans, nuff respect for persevering with your team. Bring back Uwe Rosler…
Ahmed:
1. Thats not prove enough, considering he took also took a picture with Florintino Perez and Raul, holding a Real Madrid jersey with his name it. Excatly like the one you posted.
Liverpool did not turn down the Arab investment but the Arabs stopped deal, they thought it was a insult for Liverpool to halt the negotiations when they were so close.
2. Eriksson IS a good manager and has a good track record.
Eriksson is a good manager? Like SAF, Arsene Wenger, Jose Mourinho, Fabio Capello, Marcello Lippi, Rafa Benitez, Steve Coppell even? Who you kidding, he’s such a good manager that no one’s beaten a path to his door over the past however many months he’s been without a job. He’s SO world class that he’s taking over City? No offence, for the life of you do you for one second think the calibre of manager you’re implying Sven to be would ever manage City? Like the names I put up at the beginning of this post, can anyone see the likes of Wenger and Lippi ever managing a club like City?? Sven’s crap and you know it, it’s just that him and Thaksin are supposedly the best thing to have happened to City for the past couple of years… Should’ve stuck with Stu!!
^ Give me a break, him not recieving has a job offer has nothing to do with the fact that the man IS good. Look at his track record.